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    Men's Gymnastics

    Just was at the game for the ceremony of our 60's Men's gymnastics team when we won 3 national titles. I was just wondering what happened to the program. When it was taken away and why?


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    Re: Men's Gymnastics

    I think it probably had to do with that NCAA proposition that required member institutions to offer equal numbers of scholarships to both men and women athletes. I think we lost some men's sports as a result and maybe added women's soccer? I don't know what year the men's gymnastics program was cut.

    Too bad they didn't kill men's golf instead...I'm no gymnastics fan, but at least we won some national titles in it. I don't think that's going to happen in golf.



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    Re: Men's Gymnastics

    I am actually a golfer. No we pry aren't going to win a title but they are ranked 35th in the nation, which is impressive cause they finished last in the Big 12 last year and was last in almost every meet. They are currently 2nd in the Big 12 behind Texas


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    Quote Originally Posted by galles15 View Post
    I am actually a golfer. No we pry aren't going to win a title but they are ranked 35th in the nation, which is impressive cause they finished last in the Big 12 last year and was last in almost every meet. They are currently 2nd in the Big 12 behind Texas
    No s--t? 2nd behind Texas? Wow. Shame on me then.



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    lol, but ya it has been a struggling program. Title 9 sucks. We have almost twice as many women's sports as men's. Thats ********, I think that we need our gymnastics and baseball team back.


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    Well I'll be a ____. Here it is in black and white. That's pretty impressive considering that Okie State is the defending NCAA champ. Although I don't get why they are ranked 5th with an average score that is better than the teams above them.

    Nov. 2 Golfstat Big 12 Conference Team Rankings
    1 - Texas (289.78)
    2 - Iowa State (290.36)
    3 - Texas Tech (291.33)
    4 - Texas A&M (292.33)
    5 - Oklahoma State (289.56)
    6 - Nebraska (297.15)
    7 - Kansas (297.93)
    8 - Baylor (296.50)
    9 - Kansas State (298.87)
    10 - Colorado (300.60)
    11 - Missouri (304.33)
    12 – Oklahoma (306.33)



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    Re: Men's Gymnastics

    Quote Originally Posted by galles15 View Post
    lol, but ya it has been a struggling program. Title 9 sucks. We have almost twice as many women's sports as men's. Thats ********, I think that we need our gymnastics and baseball team back.
    Title 9 afforded THOUSANDS of women the opportunity to compete in collegiate athletics, and has been an amazing piece of legislation. Yes, we have twice as many womens sports as mens sports, but do you know WHY? It's because Title 9 requires an equal number of SCHOLARSHIPS to be given to both genders. If the football program didn't eat so many scholarships, there would be more mens sports.

    To say that Title 9 sucks, it only shows that you are a closed-minded bigot with no respect for women.

    EDIT: Yeah, sorry it was so harsh, but I still don't think it is appropriate to criticize such a groundbreaking piece of legislation without any logical analysis or well-thought out arguments for your position.


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    Re: Men's Gymnastics

    title 9 needs revisions, it got rid of a lot of opportunities for men by giving opportunities to women, it shouldn't do that, plain and simple!


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    ya, i agree that football does use a lot of them up but how do you cut a program that has won 3 national titles.


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    Re: Men's Gymnastics

    Quote Originally Posted by sodakjoe View Post

    To say that Title 9 sucks, it only shows that you are a closed-minded bigot with no respect for women.
    get off you're high horse. he can say what he wants, it doesnt mean hes a bigot with no respect for women.



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    Re: Men's Gymnastics

    thanks, i have no problem with women, but when we have a program built like our men's gymnastics was you should get a little ****** about Title 9 that took that sport away because of scholarships. With us not being big powerhouses in football or basketball right now it would be nice to get more national attention for sports.


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    Re: Men's Gymnastics

    the whole problem with the legislation is not that the idea sucked, but how it was put into practice was what in fact, sucked. One party shouldn't have to suffer to bear success for the other side. Maybe I'm just bitter, because they took away my favorite sport..



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    Re: Men's Gymnastics

    Quote Originally Posted by galles15 View Post
    lol, but ya it has been a struggling program. Title 9 sucks. We have almost twice as many women's sports as men's. Thats ********, I think that we need our gymnastics and baseball team back.

    Come on Ryan, number of sports shows nothing about where all of the money goes to. Lets see but I am willing to bet that the money spent on football alone surpasses that given to all the woman sports combined.

    Anyways Title 9 was not the only reason that most of the sports got cut, BVDV cut them so he could balance the athletic budget. Football and men's basketball makes money so those stayed and some men sports like baseball that only sucked money out of the budget got cut. Its all about the Benjamins Baby!



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    Re: Men's Gymnastics

    i know the money doesn't go all towards the women's sports but how much of the money is made at women's events and how much money is given to the university for the women's athletics.


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    Re: Men's Gymnastics

    Same kinda thing with our baseball program, correct? Done because of 'title ix' ... but really a budget balancing move as well?



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