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    Not Enough Minority Coaches Being Hired

    According to the Black Coaches and Administrators (BCA), not enough minority coaches are being hired.

    ESPN - Black Coaches and Administrators: Not enough black coaches hired in football

    I think this will come with time. Before too long, we will see plenty of minorities being hired.

    I think this is a good point:

    "The NCAA does not hire coaches. The athletic directors are responsible for hiring and thus responsible for the hiring process and results," said Charlotte Westerhaus, NCAA vice president of diversity and inclusion.



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    Re: Not Enough Minority Coaches Being Hired

    Given the importance of winning these days I find it hard to believe that a AD and president would not hire the most qualified coach because he is not white.



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    Re: Not Enough Minority Coaches Being Hired

    Why aren't there any Somonian HCs?

    Why aren't there any Native American HCs?

    Why aren't there any Asian HCs?

    I sure hope the BCA are fighting for those minorities too. Or are they racist by only advocating one "race"?

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    Re: Not Enough Minority Coaches Being Hired

    Quote Originally Posted by keepngoal View Post
    Why aren't there any Somonian HCs?

    Why aren't there any Native American HCs?

    Why aren't there any Asian HCs?

    I sure hope the BCA are fighting for those minorities too. Or are they racist by only advocating one "race"?

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    Re: Not Enough Minority Coaches Being Hired

    Blah, blah, blah...



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    Re: Not Enough Minority Coaches Being Hired

    One thing to keep in mind is that many people that have negative racial views have them in a more subtle than obvious way.

    Look at the Wayne Morgan era at ISU: according to a lot of people I've talked with the team was "full of thugs", "had a lazy coach", "had no discipline", and "the players are impossible to coach".....

    Well, it turns out guys like Blalock, Stinson, etc from those eras were actually nice guys and Stinson is a very smart basketball player and really coachable. They weren't thugs, or lazy, or anything like that. They just didn't fit the image of what some ISU fans wanted to see.

    I'm not accusing ISU of anything and I'm not accusing anyone on this board about anything. It's just when I talk to the casual ISU basketball fan about the Wayne Morgan days those are the types of comments I generally hear, and I'm just not 100% certain if those comments are fair.

    Instead I think some fans were just uncomfortable with the style of play, the image of the coaching staff, and the players on the team.

    Generally boosters and fans want to see coaches that fit a profile they are comfortable with. I think it's part of the reason why Mike Davis left Indiana, and why Ty Willingham was forced out of Norte Dame.

    I'm not saying anyone is a blatant racist as far as ADs go, but during the interview process if they're white, they generally are going to be comfortable interviewing a white person. Not saying that's right, but it's the way it is and it's hard for minorities to overcome this as I often feel like they aren't given a fair shakedown...

    It will be interesting to see what happens, and I hope a coach gets the job because they are the better candidate and not for any other reason..


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    Re: Not Enough Minority Coaches Being Hired

    Do they say what the percentage of black coaches compared to the percentage of the population in America is at this point?

    Also there are not enough white president elects of the United States right now either. It at 100% if you have not checked lately. That is really unfair to us white guys.



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    Re: Not Enough Minority Coaches Being Hired

    Ask them who the president is? It appears a lot of this country is not racist and they need to worry about other things.


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    Re: Not Enough Minority Coaches Being Hired

    Quote Originally Posted by mplscyclone View Post
    One thing to keep in mind is that many people that have negative racial views have them in a more subtle than obvious way.

    Look at the Wayne Morgan era at ISU: according to a lot of people I've talked with the team was "full of thugs", "had a lazy coach", "had no discipline", and "the players are impossible to coach".....

    Well, it turns out guys like Blalock, Stinson, etc from those eras were actually nice guys and Stinson is a very smart basketball player and really coachable. They weren't thugs, or lazy, or anything like that. They just didn't fit the image of what some ISU fans wanted to see.

    I'm not accusing ISU of anything and I'm not accusing anyone on this board about anything. It's just when I talk to the casual ISU basketball fan about the Wayne Morgan days those are the types of comments I generally hear, and I'm just not 100% certain if those comments are fair.

    Instead I think some fans were just uncomfortable with the style of play, the image of the coaching staff, and the players on the team.

    Generally boosters and fans want to see coaches that fit a profile they are comfortable with. I think it's part of the reason why Mike Davis left Indiana, and why Ty Willingham was forced out of Norte Dame.

    I'm not saying anyone is a blatant racist as far as ADs go, but during the interview process if they're white, they generally are going to be comfortable interviewing a white person. Not saying that's right, but it's the way it is and it's hard for minorities to overcome this as I often feel like they aren't given a fair shakedown...

    It will be interesting to see what happens, and I hope a coach gets the job because they are the better candidate and not for any other reason..
    bold part: You lost me there...

    but its GREAT to have another post/thread on the WM HC job and firing.

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    Re: Not Enough Minority Coaches Being Hired

    Quote Originally Posted by mplscyclone View Post

    I'm not accusing ISU of anything and I'm not accusing anyone on this board about anything. It's just when I talk to the casual ISU basketball fan about the Wayne Morgan days those are the types of comments I generally hear, and I'm just not 100% certain if those comments are fair.

    Instead I think some fans were just uncomfortable with the style of play, the image of the coaching staff, and the players on the team.

    Generally boosters and fans want to see coaches that fit a profile they are comfortable with. I think it's part of the reason why Mike Davis left Indiana, and why Ty Willingham was forced out of Norte Dame.

    I'm not saying anyone is a blatant racist as far as ADs go, but during the interview process if they're white, they generally are going to be comfortable interviewing a white person. Not saying that's right, but it's the way it is and it's hard for minorities to overcome this as I often feel like they aren't given a fair shakedown...

    It will be interesting to see what happens, and I hope a coach gets the job because they are the better candidate and not for any other reason..
    Are the bold parts "negative racial views have them in a more subtle than obvious way".

    I would say YES.

    -keep



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    Re: Not Enough Minority Coaches Being Hired

    Quote Originally Posted by keepngoal View Post
    bold part: You lost me there...

    but its GREAT to have another post/thread on the WM HC job and firing.

    -keep.

    Nick Nurse said that Stinson has the highest basketball IQ and one of the most coachable players he has ever had, and he has coached ALOT of players...



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    Re: Not Enough Minority Coaches Being Hired

    I would argue there aren't enough white players in the NBA. More should be signed on teams even if they aren't the best player available. Who cares if they suck, equality is all that matters anyway.



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    Re: Not Enough Minority Coaches Being Hired

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    Nick Nurse said that Stinson has the highest basketball IQ and one of the most coachable players he has ever had, and he has coached ALOT of players...
    everyone grows up, see MTaylor on a different subject (and what is a coach supposed to say about a player to the press?). At ISU, he did his fair share of 'playing' coach.

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    Re: Not Enough Minority Coaches Being Hired

    Quote Originally Posted by isutrevman View Post
    I would argue there aren't enough white players in the NBA. More should be signed on teams even if they aren't the best player available. Who cares if they suck, equality is all that matters anyway.
    I agree. I don't know what the BCA would say to say to that, but they would either have to agree with you or say something contradictory (or racist).



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    Re: Not Enough Minority Coaches Being Hired

    Quote Originally Posted by isutrevman View Post
    I would argue there aren't enough white players in the NBA. More should be signed on teams even if they aren't the best player available. Who cares if they suck, equality is all that matters anyway.

    You just made the point why there should perhaps be more minority coaches... If there are more minority players, wouldn't you think that they're be more qualified minority coaches as these players careers end?

    By the way, this is about college sports. I think the NBA is doing a little bit better of a job employing minority coaches than the NCAA.


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