Results 1 to 15 of 15
  1. #1
    Prospect
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    18
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Would Chizik do a Charlie Weis?

    Hello everybody, I'm not new to this board, I've been visiting fanatic for over a year now. But I have never got active in posting because I forgot my username and just decided to make a new one the other day. I wont post much because I do occasionally get some inside info (like many of you do)...... however, I was scrolling down espn a little bit ago and I saw that Charlie Weis is going to get involved in the offensive play calling again.

    ESPN - Charlie Weis plans more active role with Notre Dame Fighting Irish offense

    My quesiton to you is, do you think Chizik would step in and help out Bolt, given his success at Auburn and Texas (yes, they had the players to help him out as well).... but anyways, what's your guys' thoughts?



  2. #2
    Speechless
    Points: 332,721, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 15.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    ISUFan22's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Grimes, IA
    Posts
    31,630
    Points
    332,721
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 39
    Given: 37

    Re: Would Chizik do a Charlie Weis?

    Gene is ultimately responsible for the team/program, right? Defense is a glaring weakness right now...yeah?

    I think it's fair to say it's a combo of the play on the field and coaching. I like Bolt and I like our players - but neither are getting it done.

    We have a HC who is known as being a fantastic DC - has awards for it. I think it would be crazy if he wasn't taking more of a hands-on role with the defense and IMO, this should have occurred weeks ago. And for all we know, it has been taking place.

    I mean, while the defense did let us down - they were better Saturday.



  3. #3
    Pro
    Points: 51,294, Level: 70
    Level completed: 11%, Points required for next Level: 1,256
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    Tank's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Fort Walton Beach, FL
    Posts
    2,244
    Points
    51,294
    Level
    70
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 2

    Re: Would Chizik do a Charlie Weis?

    I don't think so because Chizik was the Defensive Coord for both Auburn and Texas, so he had nothing to do with the offense. Now, I can see him getting involved with the defensive side.

    On a side note, I really hope that Chizik does not get involved with the offense because I hate it when good talented Defensive Coord try to run an offense. Mac did it and I think that was part of his downfall. So, even though Mac played offense at UI, he was still a defensive minded coach (look at him at South Florida and Florida now) and should not have got involved with the offensive side of the house.

    But, as Head Coach, you can do anything you want b/c it is your team!



  4. #4
    Prospect
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    18
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Would Chizik do a Charlie Weis?

    Correction: I see how my thread could be misleading... I don't mean to have chizik help out on offense like Weis is, but to help the defense out.

    I was just mentioning that other coaches (like Weis) are doing it to their weaker parts of the team, why not Iowa State.

    Sorry for the confusion



  5. #5
    Pro
    Points: 51,294, Level: 70
    Level completed: 11%, Points required for next Level: 1,256
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    Tank's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Fort Walton Beach, FL
    Posts
    2,244
    Points
    51,294
    Level
    70
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 2

    Re: Would Chizik do a Charlie Weis?

    Defense? Then yes.



  6. #6
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 94,177, Level: 95
    Level completed: 55%, Points required for next Level: 873
    Overall activity: 2.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    4,144
    Points
    94,177
    Level
    95
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 2
    Given: 0

    Re: Would Chizik do a Charlie Weis?

    He's already involved...you can count on it.



  7. #7
    Speechless
    Points: 115,254, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    ISUAlum2002's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Urbandale
    Posts
    15,416
    Points
    115,254
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 16
    Given: 12

    Re: Would Chizik do a Charlie Weis?

    I figured he would just naturally be helping Bolt out a lot, considering his background.



  8. #8
    Speechless
    Points: 380,561, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 100.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialOverdriveVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Wesley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Omaha
    Posts
    55,502
    Points
    380,561
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 140
    Given: 107

    Re: Would Chizik do a Charlie Weis?

    I thought you meant would he go to using crutches to gain sympathy for his team.....like Weis did.


    CFH HMagic bball season next year.
    Let my Fred's Four Horsemen ride: Georges, Hogue, Nader, and McKay.

  9. #9
    All-Star
    Points: 26,946, Level: 50
    Level completed: 40%, Points required for next Level: 604
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    Cloned4Life's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    West Des Moines
    Posts
    1,541
    Points
    26,946
    Level
    50
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Would Chizik do a Charlie Weis?

    Clearly Gene needs to get more involved with the defensive playcalling and in general needs to be more involved with the defensive scheme. People can bring up the talent issues all they want (and clearly there are talent issues) but there are way too many instances where we are SEVERELY out of position...it's disturbing how often it happens, and Gene needs to address it, yesterday.



  10. #10
    Rookie
    Points: 16,922, Level: 39
    Level completed: 59%, Points required for next Level: 328
    Overall activity: 1.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    Cymon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Ankeny
    Posts
    529
    Points
    16,922
    Level
    39
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Would Chizik do a Charlie Weis?

    Didn't Charlie tear his ACL while reaching for a sandwich?


    "Bring it all to the table. Don't hold nothin' back," he said. "I want you. I want the ball. I want your head. I throw my body into 'em and hit them." - #23 Leonard Johnson

  11. #11
    Starter
    Points: 41,570, Level: 62
    Level completed: 94%, Points required for next Level: 80
    Overall activity: 5.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran25000 Experience Points
    Balrog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Des Moines
    Posts
    684
    Points
    41,570
    Level
    62
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1
    Given: 11

    Re: Would Chizik do a Charlie Weis?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cloned4Life View Post
    Clearly Gene needs to get more involved with the defensive playcalling and in general needs to be more involved with the defensive scheme. People can bring up the talent issues all they want (and clearly there are talent issues) but there are way too many instances where we are SEVERELY out of position...it's disturbing how often it happens, and Gene needs to address it, yesterday.
    I don't disagree at all. I can't help but think Coach has been an influence on linebacker play too, since he played linebacker, and I would be amazed if he wasn't/hasn't been involved with the defensive backfield very early on, as well.
    Would everyone agree that last years edition of the DB's was at least adequate?



  12. #12
    Addict
    Points: 118,867, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    cyclonenum1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    7,181
    Points
    118,867
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Would Chizik do a Charlie Weis?

    If he is not intimately involved on the defensive side of the ball then he should be. I know that with Saban's teams the DC is that in name only...Nick Saban calls the shots on defense for his team since that is his background. And Saban works intimately with the DBs since that is what he played and where he got his start coaching.



    I cheer for two teams, Iowa State and whoever is playing the hawkeyes.

  13. #13
    Pro
    Points: 31,563, Level: 54
    Level completed: 65%, Points required for next Level: 387
    Overall activity: 9.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    isuforlife's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    2,611
    Points
    31,563
    Level
    54
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 13
    Given: 50

    Re: Would Chizik do a Charlie Weis?

    If Gene is not involved,he better get on it right now, Still think Bolt needs looked at,when the season is over!



  14. #14
    Starter
    Points: 19,682, Level: 42
    Level completed: 82%, Points required for next Level: 168
    Overall activity: 24.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Pants-free Avenue
    Posts
    806
    Points
    19,682
    Level
    42
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Would Chizik do a Charlie Weis?

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    I mean, while the defense did let us down - they were better Saturday.
    Just so I'm clear, by "better" you mean they gave up 28 points and 226 yards of passing and a 69% completion percentage in ONE HALF to backup QB. That's better?

    Vs. that defense, I don't see Chase Daniel putting up anything less than 450 yards on 30 for 32 passes with like 6 TDs.



  15. #15
    All-Star
    Points: 26,946, Level: 50
    Level completed: 40%, Points required for next Level: 604
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    Cloned4Life's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    West Des Moines
    Posts
    1,541
    Points
    26,946
    Level
    50
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Would Chizik do a Charlie Weis?

    Quote Originally Posted by tamjam View Post
    Vs. that defense, I don't see Chase Daniel putting up anything less than 450 yards on 30 for 32 passes with like 6 TDs.
    Completely agree...it's a scary thought.

    What amazes me is how teams consistently run the SAME plays over and over and we never adjust. Ever. Maybe our players are just that bad that they simply don't have the phsyical/mental ability to make the reads/plays, I don't know. But it appears to me that our opponents know exactly what will work and know we won't do anything to adjust. Isn't there something the coaches can at least try?



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • Football
  • Iowa State vs. North Dakota State
  • August 30, 2014
  • 06:00 PM