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    Academic fields ranked by GRE scores

    Physics and math are ranked one and two while education and public administration rec'd the lowest rankings.

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    Re: Academic fields ranked by GRE scores

    So.. if you're a math or physics teacher would you be right in the middle somewhere?


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    I will say that being a teacher is less about knowledge and more about presentation and management skills. Most everyone can remember a teacher who was an absolute genius but didn't have the skills to pass on that knowledge to their students. This is not to say that teachers are dumb by any means, but there is more to a person than a GRE score. People who tend to score high on standardized scores typically excel in solely standard intelligence. Great teachers have highly proficient in a variety of the multiple intelligences.

    That being said, it still is sad that it's the second to lowest field.



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    Re: Academic fields ranked by GRE scores

    I recently took the GRE, and there was not an analytical section that was scored like this. It was a writing component that was scored from 1 to 5.

    What year is this chart from?



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    Re: Academic fields ranked by GRE scores

    Quote Originally Posted by isucyfan View Post
    I recently took the GRE, and there was not an analytical section that was scored like this. It was a writing component that was scored from 1 to 5.

    What year is this chart from?
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    Re: Academic fields ranked by GRE scores

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    That would explain it.

    Plus, I don't think my discipline is even on there. I will assume that it was omitted from the very top of the chart.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetta View Post
    I will say that being a teacher is less about knowledge and more about presentation and management skills. Most everyone can remember a teacher who was an absolute genius but didn't have the skills to pass on that knowledge to their students. This is not to say that teachers are dumb by any means, but there is more to a person than a GRE score. People who tend to score high on standardized scores typically excel in solely standard intelligence. Great teachers have highly proficient in a variety of the multiple intelligences.

    That being said, it still is sad that it's the second to lowest field.
    Really, I think it depends on what level you teach. Collegiate level, you need a very high mastery of your section. HS/MS, not as high of a level, but high enough to know how to everything in the field works and how to break it down enough to have the students build up to it. MS, a cross between HS and EL. EL, you need more management control than particular knowledge of the subject(s) and it's intricacies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone62 View Post
    Really, I think it depends on what level you teach. Collegiate level, you need a very high mastery of your section. HS/MS, not as high of a level, but high enough to know how to everything in the field works and how to break it down enough to have the students build up to it. MS, a cross between HS and EL. EL, you need more management control than particular knowledge of the subject(s) and it's intricacies.
    That's the operative right there. The GRE measures basically math, reading, and ability to write an essay. While my field has pieces of that, none of those are a direct correlation. Can't quantitatively measure creativity. Honestly the results of my GRE worked like this: Top 95% on verbal reasoning, 5 out of 5 on the analytical writing, but could've qualified for a learning disability on the quantitative reasoning. I hadn't taken a math course since I was 16. I didn't use the advanced mathematics in my everyday life. You don't use it, you lose it. I'm a very intelligent person, but if you judged me soley on my GRE, you wouldn't get that.

    I think another factor in this is that most people getting a PhD in education are doing so to head into administration. Professors get PhD's in their relative field, not education (unless they're professors of education).


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    Re: Academic fields ranked by GRE scores

    I believe there is some data that shows that prospective teachers also score the lowest on SAT and ACT tests as well.

    For those of us who don't choose to rationalize it away, this is not a surprise.


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    Re: Academic fields ranked by GRE scores

    Which, Jetta, is exactly why High Stakes tests are bullocks.


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    Re: Academic fields ranked by GRE scores

    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    I believe there is some data that shows that prospective teachers also score the lowest on SAT and ACT tests as well.

    For those of us who don't choose to rationalize it away, this is not a surprise.
    Really, this comes off as offensive. It sounds like a blanket statement that teachers are borderline the dumbest in class.


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    Re: Academic fields ranked by GRE scores

    SAT scores of teacher wannabes

    High school graduates who say they intend to major in education score in the bottom third compared to 36 other intended majors, according to the SAT data released last week. Nationally, intended education majors finished 25th in reading, 27th in math and a combined 57 points below the national average in both.
    Of course, we don't want to offend anyone. Especially when not offending anyone is your primary goal...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    For those of us who don't choose to rationalize it away, this is not a surprise.
    It is neither cheap nor petty rationalization to say that a person is more than the sum of their test scores.
    I hope everyone has had the good fortune to have studied under a teacher that believed that.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    SAT scores of teacher wannabes



    Of course, we don't want to offend anyone. Especially when not offending anyone is your primary goal...
    You do realize that if you major in Education, you're going to be teaching pre-k - 7th grade, right? If you want to teach actual theories of subjects you major in the field you will be teaching.

    It's just my experience that everyone equates a degree in education to be equal to that of a teacher at any level.


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    Re: Academic fields ranked by GRE scores

    Quote Originally Posted by isucyfan View Post
    I recently took the GRE, and there was not an analytical section that was scored like this. It was a writing component that was scored from 1 to 5.

    What year is this chart from?
    The GMAT has a writing section scored from 1 to X. Is the GRE changing to become more like the GMAT?

    I still think that it is silly to have both. I have taken the GMAT and now have to take the GRE 1.5 years later.


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