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    McCarney article on coaching FL Dline

    pretty good read on his expectations of players and such...

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    Re: McCarney article on coaching FL Dline

    Hey, he might get a head coach job soon.


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    Re: McCarney article on coaching FL Dline

    It's all about the athletes...DMac can flat out coach. He just couldn't get the horses...



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    Re: McCarney article on coaching FL Dline

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Hey, he might get a head coach job soon.
    Will believe that when I see it. If I do see it, it will not be a BCS team.



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    Re: McCarney article on coaching FL Dline

    Quote Originally Posted by isuno1fan View Post
    Will believe that when I see it. If I do see it, it will not be a BCS team.


    I agree. I actually think he's better as an assistant.

    First, I think he's a good defensive mind. Working as an assitant allows you to build or help build a defensive gameplan, more so than a head coach.

    Second, he's a good recruiter. He's a "players coach", without a doubt. Players love his attitude. I think that resonates well with recruiting. Often times players choose the school not based on the head coach, but on the assistant recruiting them. A player builds more of a relationship with the assistant coach than he will with a head coach. Like at work, you'll probably have a more direct relationship with your boss, than your bosses' boss. At the same time, if your bosses' boss says something, you do it.

    Maybe I have it wrong, but in college coaching, it seems to work better to have a head coach that's a hard *** that everyone fears but respects. You counter that with assistants who are more approachable to listen to players voice concerns.

    Kind of like the head coach being the stern father figure, while the assistants are more of the "older brothers" whom the players respect for guidence but also go to when they have problems.

    I just think Mac's personality fits better as an assistant. If you want to have impacts on players and build great game plans it's the thing for you. If you're someone who wants recognition, and wants to have more of a hands off approach with coaching players, then I think you go for the paycheck.

    As seen, a top notch assistant can get paid like a decent head coach. If you have an ego though, I guess you want to be top dogg.


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    Re: McCarney article on coaching FL Dline

    Good enough for him, glad to hear he's having some success, even if it's not here at ISU.


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    Re: McCarney article on coaching FL Dline

    I think He would be a great coach about anywhere he went. He did more at our school then most could have done.

    Chizik has a lot more to work with thanks to Mac.

    Remember when Mac got here there were no suites, No Jacobson building. The Olson building was horrible, No indoore practice facility. It was a bad coaching job. Mac turned it into a place that the Defensive Coordinator at Texas thought it might be alright to come coach here.



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    Re: McCarney article on coaching FL Dline

    Quote Originally Posted by mplscyclone View Post

    Kind of like the head coach being the stern father figure, while the assistants are more of the "older brothers" whom the players respect for guidence but also go to when they have problems.
    And you just really have to hope that the "older brothers" aren't like Wesley Johnson's older brother...



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    Re: McCarney article on coaching FL Dline

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing View Post
    I think He would be a great coach about anywhere he went. He did more at our school then most could have done.

    Chizik has a lot more to work with thanks to Mac.

    Remember when Mac got here there were no suites, No Jacobson building. The Olson building was horrible, No indoore practice facility. It was a bad coaching job. Mac turned it into a place that the Defensive Coordinator at Texas thought it might be alright to come coach here.
    Well said.



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    Re: McCarney article on coaching FL Dline

    Dan Mac did a lot for our football program, agree with the above poster. He did get us bowl games.

    I actually would love to see him as an assistant under Chizik, but we know that will never happen.



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    Re: McCarney article on coaching FL Dline

    Quote Originally Posted by mplscyclone View Post

    Maybe I have it wrong, but in college coaching, it seems to work better to have a head coach that's a hard *** that everyone fears but respects. You counter that with assistants who are more approachable to listen to players voice concerns.

    Kind of like the head coach being the stern father figure, while the assistants are more of the "older brothers" whom the players respect for guidence but also go to when they have problems.
    Pete Carroll seems to fit your definition of a great assistant coach then...



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    Re: McCarney article on coaching FL Dline

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    Pete Carroll seems to fit your definition of a great assistant coach then...



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    Re: McCarney article on coaching FL Dline

    I think it strongly depends on the type of program it is. Mack Brown at Texas, Pete Carroll at USC Both excellent coaches with a laid back style and hard assistants.



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    Re: McCarney article on coaching FL Dline

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUclones33 View Post
    I think it strongly depends on the type of program it is. Mack Brown at Texas, Pete Carroll at USC Both excellent coaches with a laid back style and hard assistants.

    I apologize for my crappy post. It wasn't very good at all.

    I agree that it depends on the program. One's coaching style needs to be different depending on the make-up of your players in the program.

    There are a couple of points, however.

    First: Texas and USC are almost NFL-type programs. I believe NFL players have such a high ego and can be such prima donnas that too much criticism is the coach "hating on them".

    Second: Both programs have had A LOT of off the field problems in the past. That's not all the head coaching's fault, but depending on the year, some of Texas' and USC's off the field problems make Iowa look like childs play.

    Third: I was trying to post what I did from the prespective that I didn't think Mac would be coaching a Florida, USC, Texas, or any other top program as a head coach. I could see him as a mid-major coach or a smaller BCS school coach. I think with those teams, the coaching philosophy I previously discussed would be better: you aren't going to be signing 5 star talent, so player development is important.

    Anyhow, I agree that you can't really generalize every program and have to look at each on a case-by-case basis. I just think Mac is a better assistant coach than a head coach, and was coming up with reasons why I thought so.


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    Re: McCarney article on coaching FL Dline

    I think DMac would be a great AD after Pollards era. Great motivator and very personable.


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