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    Slowing teams down

    Isnt there anything this staff can put in to atleast slow the other team down? Chizik and all his knowledge of D cannot come up with a gameplan to keep the gains under 15 yards a pop. It looks like they are playing a base D every game and not putting in a gameplan to stop what other teams do well. I figured this team would take its lumps this year, but I also figured they would look like they belonged on same field as other Big 12 teams.


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    Re: Slowing teams down

    Water the field before the game?



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    Re: Slowing teams down

    We could have our corners give the receivers a 15 yard cushions, a la McCarney. That would keep the receivers in front of us and we could just let them slowly bleed us to death.



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    Re: Slowing teams down

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUAlum2002 View Post
    We could have our corners give the receivers a 15 yard cushions, a la McCarney. That would keep the receivers in front of us and we could just let them slowly bleed us to death.

    Ahh, the ol' "bend but don't stop bending" defense.



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    Re: Slowing teams down

    the bend but don't break defense works if you force turnovers and have an offense that can constitenly move the ball effectively with a long field. But when you have no pass rush from your front guys to cause hurries that lead to turnovers - then you can't use this defensive philosophy


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    Re: Slowing teams down

    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleClone View Post
    Ahh, the ol' "bend but don't stop bending" defense.
    We ran that defense to perfection for many years.



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    Re: Slowing teams down

    We are playing completely broken defense.



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    Our defense is the type that would be successful once we get the right players in.... we are still developing so many young players that it is tough.... we don't get any pressure on the qb, and we can't stop the run.


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    Re: Slowing teams down

    Quote Originally Posted by CP44 View Post
    Our defense is the type that would be successful once we get the right players in.... we are still developing so many young players that it is tough.... we don't get any pressure on the qb, and we can't stop the run.
    Any defense will work if you get pressure on the qb and stop the run.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PolkCityClone View Post
    Any defense will work if you get pressure on the qb and stop the run.
    True... I guess I didn't word that right... I just mean that overall our defense is either not athletic enough or were young and still developing and the dline is where its really become the most glaring imo


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    Re: Slowing teams down

    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleClone View Post
    Water the field before the game?

    Grate Idea Seattle..Also I would add to that RECRUIT BETTER DEFENSIVE LINEMEN....IMO that would help more than water on the field...but then again ya never know!!!



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    Re: Slowing teams down

    McCarney had his teams give cushion. People complained. Now we're tight and just being beat out of less talent and people complain. Comes down to talent.


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    Re: Slowing teams down

    It all comes down to pass rush from the front four. Once we are able to achieve that, everything else will fall in place.



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    Re: Slowing teams down

    Our front 4 is getting no pressure on the QB...

    Our LB's aren't quick enough...

    In my opinion, McCarney left the cupboard bare in these areas and it will take Chiz a few years to recruit "his" players and get them developed.

    We're playing approximately 11 true freshman due to necessity. Some of these true freshman have beat out established veterans that McCarney recruited. Don't throw Chizik under the bus in year 2!! Give him the time he needs to recruit and develop his players.

    Also remember that he had a total of two months to recruit his first class.



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    Re: Slowing teams down

    Quote Originally Posted by psycln11 View Post
    Our front 4 is getting no pressure on the QB...

    Our LB's aren't quick enough...

    In my opinion, McCarney left the cupboard bare in these areas and it will take Chiz a few years to recruit "his" players and get them developed.

    We're playing approximately 11 true freshman due to necessity. Some of these true freshman have beat out established veterans that McCarney recruited. Don't throw Chizik under the bus in year 2!! Give him the time he needs to recruit and develop his players.

    Also remember that he had a total of two months to recruit his first class.
    Post of the day nominee! I remember when we were recruiting the classes that are this years juniors and seniors. People were concerned about the lack of DL and OL in the class... Well, I guess that is catching up with us now...



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