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    Telling numbers for ISU's secondary

    This, from ESPN's Tim Griffin's blog:
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    I really hope they can find a way to tighten up the D this weekend, or it's going to be a VERY long Saturday.



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    Re: Telling numbers for ISU's secondary

    You can tell the guy is a stat-watcher only. If he watched even a bit of these games, he'd know we put zero pressure on these guys - allowing them all the time in the world to pick our young secondary apart.

    Well, he could have taken a look at our sack stat I guess...would've tipped him off.



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    Re: Telling numbers for ISU's secondary

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    You can tell the guy is a stat-watcher only. If he watched even a bit of these games, he'd know we put zero pressure on these guys - allowing them all the time in the world to pick our young secondary apart.

    Well, he could have taken a look at our sack stat I guess...would've tipped him off.
    I was just about to say the same thing. The corners have been very good, the completions against them are either in front and they are hit immediately or over the top when they are SUPPOSED to have safety help.



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    Re: Telling numbers for ISU's secondary

    Exactly we have a good group of corners. They will be VERY good in 2 more years.



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    Re: Telling numbers for ISU's secondary

    I think our corners are good enough this year. They're not great - but good enough. They could be great already next year. But unless the play upfront changes - they will continue to look like buffoons. The safeties are average at best - but not nearly as bad as they've been made to look.

    Go back and review the games (or times during the games rather) when our defense played well. Then look when the defense struggled.

    The difference between those times is blatantly clear and it doesn't really revolve around the secondary.

    As an aside to the other thread about recruiting - I'd gladly take a 4/5* lineman (offense or defense) over a 4/5* skill position player - easy. Wouldn't think twice about it.

    With an average D-line, we've got at least one more win. With average or a little better play by both offense and defensive lines - we're above .500 right now.


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    Re: Telling numbers for ISU's secondary

    It's up the middle where we have been killed in the passing game. Yes, the safeties and mlb giving up the majority of yards. We definately need to shore up the middle of our zone.


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    Re: Telling numbers for ISU's secondary

    I read the thread title thinking, "who in the world needs stats to know we're horrible at pass defense?" Of course, the opposition has had something to do with that as well.

    That said, just about anything except the corners has been the probem.



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    Re: Telling numbers for ISU's secondary

    My comment on the blog:

    Tim, love your blog, but I feel compelled to disagree with your analysis of just the QB stats.
    Look at our sack numbers, and watch some of our games, you'll realize that Iowa Sate is getting NO pressure on the QB. As anyone knows giving a Big XII caliber QB time to throw is going to result in some amazing stats. For freshmen, Leonard Johnson and Ter'ran Benton are playing exceptionally well. They are making hits at the time the ball is caught and if not, they are getting there soon after and allowing little to no YAC. Our bigger problems lie with the coverage of the safeties and linebackers.
    I usually read his blog each day if I get the time and that is one thing I have noticed. He seldom seems to watch games outside of those with the South teams or the occasional North power. So he relies on stats a lot to make his arguments.



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    Re: Telling numbers for ISU's secondary

    Quote Originally Posted by d4nim4l View Post
    My comment on the blog: I usually read his blog each day if I get the time and that is one thing I have noticed. He seldom seems to watch games outside of those with the South teams or the occasional North power. So he relies on stats a lot to make his arguments.
    Good comment...



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    Re: Telling numbers for ISU's secondary

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    You can tell the guy is a stat-watcher only. If he watched even a bit of these games, he'd know we put zero pressure on these guys - allowing them all the time in the world to pick our young secondary apart.

    Well, he could have taken a look at our sack stat I guess...would've tipped him off.
    I think the secondary should take their share of the blame here. I watched the FSN replay of the aTm game last night, and several times on the Aggies 3rd TD drive in the 2nd quarter we got great pressure on the QB, but he just lobbed the ball to a wide open receiver. There's plenty of bad play at every position on defense right now.



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    Re: Telling numbers for ISU's secondary

    The failings of the pass defense should fall much more on the safeties and MLB, like was said before.



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    Re: Telling numbers for ISU's secondary

    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaCy View Post
    I think the secondary should take their share of the blame here. I watched the FSN replay of the aTm game last night, and several times on the Aggies 3rd TD drive in the 2nd quarter we got great pressure on the QB, but he just lobbed the ball to a wide open receiver. There's plenty of bad play at every position on defense right now.
    When you give a QB time he will find an open guy. Its not the DBs fault, there is no way a DB can be expected to cover a guy that long. When you get no pressure the coverage gets spead out creating seams for the recievers go find or release into late. Since the cover 2 isnt working, why not play 3 or 4 CBs to cover some of these WR. What do you have to lose.


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    Re: Telling numbers for ISU's secondary

    We miss Ace and Banks more than I thought. Our corners are making way to many tackles.



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    Re: Telling numbers for ISU's secondary

    Quote Originally Posted by PolkCityClone View Post
    We miss Ace and Banks more than I thought. Our corners are making way to many tackles.
    I don't think the outside linebackers are the problem...aside from Bibbs' injury.



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