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    Onside strategy

    Here's a crazy thought...why not attempt an onside kick on every kickoff?

    We have a kicker that, at least so far, has shown a solid ability to kick a great onside ball. If we recover 30% of the time (and we all know that so far we're 2 for 2) then that's 1-3 possessions extra that we keep opponents off the field and give us the chance with good field position to score. If we don't recover, their offense marches down the field and scores, which is exactly the same result as if we kicked off normally.



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    Re: Onside strategy

    seriously?



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    Re: Onside strategy

    Does Grinnell football have any coaching spots available?

    I think you might be a perfect candidate....


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    Re: Onside strategy

    Actually, I thought the same thing, I would think that the odds of our defense stopping OSU vs. our odds of recovering the onside kick are at least even if not better for recovering the onside vs. stopping them, especially after how they have looked vs. Baylor and A&M, to an extent Nebraska.

    Keeps their offense off the field, if they recover, they get a short field and keeps their defense on the field longer allowing us to possible score more points vs. a tired defense than a rested one. Of course in order to kick off more than once, we have to score to begin with....



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    Re: Onside strategy

    Ha! With our defence playing like they do on a lot of our possessions, it could work. Probably not the best strategy though...



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    Re: Onside strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by synapticwave View Post
    Here's a crazy thought...why not attempt an onside kick on every kickoff?



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    Re: Onside strategy

    You're right. That sure is one crazy thought.



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    Re: Onside strategy

    We would give up less yards at least.



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    Re: Onside strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by cloneu View Post
    We would give up less yards at least.
    Positive thinking, thats what I like.



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    Re: Onside strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by synapticwave View Post
    Here's a crazy thought...why not attempt an onside kick on every kickoff?

    We have a kicker that, at least so far, has shown a solid ability to kick a great onside ball. If we recover 30% of the time (and we all know that so far we're 2 for 2) then that's 1-3 possessions extra that we keep opponents off the field and give us the chance with good field position to score. If we don't recover, their offense marches down the field and scores, which is exactly the same result as if we kicked off normally.
    I don't know about every time. But, I wouldn't be against seeing us doing a couple of unexpected ones before the season is over. Mahoney sure does seem to have a knack for getting the right hop on it. It can be a pretty valuable tool...



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    Re: Onside strategy

    HA! This is almost crazy enough to work. Look at it like this: OSU has an exceptional offense, and we have made some mediocre offenses look great. They could very well score on every possession. If OSU recovers, they get a short field. This will allow our defense to either get a quick stop or give up a quick score, either way it gets them off the field. If we kick it deep, OSU marches us down the field 80 yards over and over again and we are out of gas by halftime.

    I really do like the idea of going for a quick stop or a turnover vs bending and then breaking all the way down the field, at least given the performance of their O and our D.

    Plus, the potential extra possessions for ISU will give us a few more chances to score, something we are certainly going to need if we even hope to keep up in this game.

    ..... That said, I would hate to see this actually tried, but looking at it as a pure hypothetical, a case can certainly be made to give it a shot..... plus we are 5 TD underdogs on the road where we haven't won in 3 years, and riding a 6 game losing streak, really, what's to lose?



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    Re: Onside strategy

    I think we should take this a step further, no scholarships for defensive players, give them all to offensive players. Surely with all the scholarships devoted to offense we can get an unstoppable offensive machine, and since our defense doesn't show up anyways we can just throw some walk-ons out there without too much trouble.


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    Re: Onside strategy

    At this point... I'm for it.



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    Re: Onside strategy

    Every time? Crazy.

    Tossing one in now and then? I fully support it.

    In my book, we're 2-2 in onside kick execution (when discounting the poor call). Find me another play or spot on the field in which our execution is 100%.



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