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    ISU: Big 12 North Champs in 2009?

    That probably got your attention.

    Last night, I was over at Deace's watching college football and he and I went down each Big 12 team, looking at the number of returning starters and W & L'ing each team's schedule in the Big 12.

    We were basing it off of Street & Smith's preseason FB magazine we had, and must disclose there are a few people starting around the league right now that were not listed in that mag. But I think our numbers are fairly close.

    We were blown away by the following: 4 of the 6 Big 12 North teams return FEWER than 10 starters; KU, MU, KSU & Nebraska.

    Colorado returns 13-15, while ISU returns upwards of 15.

    Then we went through each team's schedule, spitballing of course, and we basically had ISU in a three way tie to win the North...and ISU won the tiebreaker.

    This team has to find some way to finish strong. Last night's offensive production was a good start on that path. The defense is what it is. Need to beat Colorado and KSU...just wish those games were the last two and back to back.

    The Big 12 will take a considerable step back next year, especially the North. We tabbed Nebraska with a 4-8 record.

    So there are some real possibilities next year. Keep the chin up!


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    Re: ISU: Big 12 North Champs in 2009?

    Win a game.


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    Re: ISU: Big 12 North Champs in 2009?

    LOL

    We know they are going to have to turn some things around defensively, up front. I think they have a nice nucleus of players on offense, players that need another year of seasoning on the field and in the weight room. Eliminate dropped balls...carve out an identity on offense.

    I guess the base point is that the B12 north is going to be wide open next year, and there is not a dominant team in the entire division.


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    Re: ISU: Big 12 North Champs in 2009?

    Jon- Thanks for the effort. However I'm resigning to the fact that we are and always will be the doormat of the Big 12. BUT, that doesn't mean we can't be the Big 12 Tailgating Champs, EVERY year right? Go Cyclones!



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    Re: ISU: Big 12 North Champs in 2009?

    Well, I'll sleep a lot easier tonight having you and Deace's thoughts on next year.

    Actually, although I don't feel better about our team, you did make me feel a lot better about myself.

    I just pictured you and Deace sitting indian style in your undies in the middle of his floor, each with a magazine in your lap and a miners light strapped to your head (can't wake the Mrs.---church in the morning, you know).

    Rather than watch the ISU or Penn State game, you decided to take a break from it all and bask in the glow of your own greatness and football knowledge.

    Deace: "You wanna break down next years Big 12 North?"

    Jon: "You read my mind, brother!!"

    Was Wolfgang looking at Penthouse?

    A young, horrible team with a lot of returning starters is probably the dumbest way to predict future success. You know that, right?


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    Re: ISU: Big 12 North Champs in 2009?

    LOL. We were watching both games.


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    Re: ISU: Big 12 North Champs in 2009?

    Defense up front and over the middle. If the personnel is there next year to make significant improvements in those areas - the Big 12 North is within reason.


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    Re: ISU: Big 12 North Champs in 2009?

    I simply can't rationally have that high of hopes for '09 until we start showing something this season. One game of good offense vs. a horrid defense is not a trend. It could start one, however, but methinks OSU will swiftly end it.



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    Re: ISU: Big 12 North Champs in 2009?

    It is not implausible. Just look at Minnesota's turn around in one year.



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    Re: ISU: Big 12 North Champs in 2009?

    Also, before we anoint ourselves the greatest show on turf, keep in mind that ISU scored the fewest points against A&M of any Big 12 team so far.


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    Re: ISU: Big 12 North Champs in 2009?

    I could see us making a Minnesota type turnaround next year but I a lot of things are going to have to fall in place for that to happen. Like firing Wayne Bolt and getting some damn pressure on the QB.



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    Re: ISU: Big 12 North Champs in 2009?

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    I could see us making a Minnesota type turnaround next year but I a lot of things are going to have to fall in place for that to happen. Like firing Wayne Bolt and getting some damn pressure on the QB.
    LOL

    Bolt can't make our defensive linemen faster.

    I love post-loss insanity.



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    Re: ISU: Big 12 North Champs in 2009?

    Oh, and another thing...

    The last thing we need right now is an all knowing Iowa fan and a former ISU shill coming in here to tell us to keep our chin up.

    It's smarmy (1 : revealing or marked by a smug, ingratiating, or false earnestness <a tone of smarmy self-satisfaction — New Yorker> 2 : of low sleazy taste or quality.)

    Seems like the definition fits.



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