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    All Big XII title game?

    With Texas being a virtual shoo-in for the NC game should they win out, it would appear that OU might be in a pretty good position to join them. It sounds a little crazy, but if Alabama loses just once, OU would be in the driver's seat for the #2 ranking in the BCS.

    OU only trails Penn State by .04 points in the current BCS standings. Wins over #6 Okie State and #8 TTech would easily vault them ahead of PSU, whose best win left would be over #9 OSU.

    IMO, the following simple scenario puts UT vs. OU for the title:

    1) UT wins out
    2) Bama loses
    3) OU wins out

    While this would be great for the conference, would anyone outside the Big 12 really care about this game? Thoughts?



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    Re: All Big XII title game?

    No, it would be the same thing as when Nebraska played for the NC last time. People would go crazy saying "how can you play for the NC when you didnt when your conference).


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    Re: All Big XII title game?

    It'd be pretty cool.



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    Re: All Big XII title game?

    There is actually a rule in the BCS that states that you have to win your conference to be considered for the national title.



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    Re: All Big XII title game?

    Remember a couple years ago when people thought Michigan and Ohio State would meet again for the national championship? Thank goodness that never happened. ESPN was drooling all over the possibility, but most college football fans, I think, were hoping that wouldn't happen.

    As far as an all-Big 12 title game, it would be a good indication that the top of our conference is very, very strong. Would our conference get more revenue if we had two teams in the title game? I'm not sure. But I think, again, that most college footballs fans would be turned off by a national title game exclusively within one conference, and I would agree that it's better for the game to see those interconference match-ups.



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    Re: All Big XII title game?

    Quote Originally Posted by ajsp View Post
    There is actually a rule in the BCS that states that you have to win your conference to be considered for the national title.
    In the BCS selection procedures, it says in two different subsections:

    "The top two teams in the final BCS Standings shall play in the National Championship Game."

    "The top two teams in the final BCS Standings will be placed in the National Championship Game."

    There are no exceptions or exemptions listed.



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    Re: All Big XII title game?

    Quote Originally Posted by ajsp View Post
    There is actually a rule in the BCS that states that you have to win your conference to be considered for the national title.
    Here's what the BCS website says:

    "1. The top two teams in the final BCS Standings shall play in the National Championship Game."

    I don't see a qualifier that says, "provided both teams are conference champions."

    EDIT: Shadow, you beat me to it.



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    Re: All Big XII title game?

    Good theory untill OSU beats OU.



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    Re: All Big XII title game?

    Polls are weighted heavily enough in the BCS formula that I don't think the pollsters would allow it, unless there are no other 1-loss teams in a major conference.



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    Re: All Big XII title game?

    A 1 loss OU team will not play in the championship game over an undefeated Penn State.



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    Re: All Big XII title game?

    That won't matter once Penn State loses to OSU on Saturday.



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    Re: All Big XII title game?

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    That won't matter once Penn State loses to OSU on Saturday.

    Didn't say they won't, but the original post was only Bama losing and UT and OU running the table. They felt that OU would go over an undefeated Penn State based on the ratings of OSU and TT. Keep in mind either UT or OSU/TT will have all lost at least 1 as they have yet to play each other, hurting the "strength of schedule" argument.

    But my point stands. IF Penn State is undefeated at the end of the year, there is no way they are left out of the National Championship game in favor of a 1 loss OU team.



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    Re: All Big XII title game?

    Jon Miller is talking about this right now

    pretty interesting actually.


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    Re: All Big XII title game?

    The obvious flaw in my argument is that Okie St and TTU can't both be undefeated before they play OU. If OU could play Okie St and TT before they play each other, and before both lose to Texas, then I believe that would be enough to leapfrog PSU, regardless of them winning out.

    Now, should Penn State and Bama both lose, then OU is the best 1-loss team out there, and would still make it into the NC game vs. UT. At that point it wouldn't matter what Okie St and TT were ranked when OU beat them.

    I'm a big fan of mass chaos when it comes to the BCS, so I would like to see this scenario play out.



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    Re: All Big XII title game?

    Quote Originally Posted by cardinal&gold View Post
    Remember a couple years ago when people thought Michigan and Ohio State would meet again for the national championship? Thank goodness that never happened. ESPN was drooling all over the possibility, but most college football fans, I think, were hoping that wouldn't happen.

    As far as an all-Big 12 title game, it would be a good indication that the top of our conference is very, very strong. Would our conference get more revenue if we had two teams in the title game? I'm not sure. But I think, again, that most college footballs fans would be turned off by a national title game exclusively within one conference, and I would agree that it's better for the game to see those interconference match-ups.
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