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    Bonds

    Does anyone really care that Bonds was allegedly colluded against? It's really hard to feel sorry for such an a-hole.

    ESPN - Players' association says teams acted in concert to not sign Bonds - MLB



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    Re: Bonds

    Sounds incredibly difficult to prove this. Every GM could just say, "we didn't want him"



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    Re: Bonds

    I still think he is the best player of our generation....regardless of being an "A-hole".



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    Re: Bonds

    Some will vehemently disagree with you on this. I think at the very least he is in the conversation. It takes a lot more than being a body builder to hit a home run. Somewhat beside the point, if he was taking all he is accused of the length of his career is a marvel in itself.
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    I still think he is the best player of our generation....regardless of being an "A-hole".


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    Re: Bonds

    How is it collusion to say, "man, I don't want that creaky old 'roid lover on my team"?

    I dunno what the union is complaining about anyway. If Bonds had been with a team, it just would have bumped another union member into the minors.



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    Re: Bonds

    Quote Originally Posted by isuno1fan View Post
    I still think he is the best player of our generation....regardless of being an "A-hole".
    Best home run hitter perhaps.


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    Re: Bonds

    Quote Originally Posted by cmoneyr View Post
    Best home run hitter perhaps.
    Who is the best player then?



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    Re: Bonds

    8 gold gloves and 12 silver sluggers... More than just a power hitter.



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    Re: Bonds

    The owners didn't want to order a bunch of XXXXXL hats and batting helmets.


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    Re: Bonds

    I have a unique opinion I guess.

    Let me put this out there. Barry Bonds was my favorite player and has been since the early to mid-90's. He was a phenomonal hitter and was usually considered to have one of the best swings in the game.

    Then the home run rush began, and while I certainly won't defend Bonds for using steroids, he takes an unfair brunt of the criticism when numerous other big shots also used. Now we all can probably agree he wouldn't of hit that many homers w/o the juice, but you can't say that he wasn't a great player and one of the best hitters in the game. His effort and mentality in the latter years made it hard to pull for him as well-



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    Quote Originally Posted by delt4cy View Post

    Then the home run rush began, and while I certainly won't defend Bonds for using steroids, he takes an unfair brunt of the criticism when numerous other big shots also used. -

    Why? Race? Because he's a liar and won't admit the obvious? Because he's sour to the media, fans, and teammates? If you ask him it's race. And, if being descriminated involved making the cash he has and having the addoring fans he has shunned, then sign me up. He's getting what he deserves. And in time he'll get his asterik in Cooperstown.



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    Re: Bonds

    Then you might as well get on your high horse/soap box and call out every player that was on that list and the numerous others that used steroids over the years and put asterisks behind every record/every team they were ever involved with. Ah Hell, let's just cross out the last 30 years of baseball.

    All I'm saying is that he takes an unfair amount of the blame. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve blame, but it would appear that Barry was the only one using steroids. That is clearly not the case. He is the center piece for all this discussion and is obviously the easiest scapegoat but let's not take away the fact that he was a great ballplayer.



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    Re: Bonds

    He may be a first class D-Bag but I do not believe it has ever been proven guilty of using the juice. As much as I everyone thinks he has, we can't prove it. He would have one of the best players of all time before the sudden "growth spurt". So even if he did use roids he will still be one of the best players of all time.



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    Re: Bonds

    I'm speculating that it has more to do with his possibility to land in jail during the season than the other acting in concert. You might miss a few ball games if you have to be in court/jail during the season.

    I was hoping that he would finish out his career in San Francisco. If my memory serves me correct, I thought he and the team agreed to a contract with the Giants during the season, then the league shot it down because the document had some "bad language" or ridiculous clauses.



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    Re: Bonds

    Quote Originally Posted by Gordyo5 View Post
    He may be a first class D-Bag but I do not believe it has ever been proven guilty of using the juice. As much as I everyone thinks he has, we can't prove it. He would have one of the best players of all time before the sudden "growth spurt". So even if he did use roids he will still be one of the best players of all time.
    Except in the leaked grand jury testimony, he said he unknowingly took the cream and clear.



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