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    Chizik on hot seat?

    I know we just had a thread like this but here is a website that actually thinks that Chizik should be on the hot seat. Its just ridiculous to think that.

    Coaches Hot Seat 2008


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    Re: Chizik on hot seat?

    It's not like he's on the top 10 or anything...



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    NOPE not yet

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    I know we just had a thread like this but here is a website that actually thinks that Chizik should be on the hot seat. Its just rediculous to think that.

    Coaches Hot Seat 2008
    needs 2-3 years



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    Re: Chizik on hot seat?

    This looks like a site written by someone with too much time on their hands. He needs to get a life.



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    Re: Chizik on hot seat?

    it would be insane to put Chizik on the hot seat. Just stupid to even suggest really.



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    Re: Chizik on hot seat?

    That's just plain DUMB.... no ISU coach will ever be on the hot seat in their second year.



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    Re: Chizik on hot seat?

    As someone pointed out in the other thread, he's 25th on the list.

    No more than the top 10 or so will be fired in any given year.

    That means that Chiz would be nearing the top in the next 2-3 years if he keeps up the current not-so-awesome pace in terms of wins and losses.

    I dont' think that's too insane. That would be 4 or 5 years.


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    Re: Chizik on hot seat?

    If anyone "truely" thinks he is on the Hotseat after having some of the best athletes recruited at ISU in his 2nd year........all I have to say is:
    Enjoy your Red Leather Jacket, Rebok pumps and Double-wide.



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    Re: Chizik on hot seat?

    Here's why Chizik should not be on any sort of hot seat until after at least after his sixth year at ISU (disclaimer - I know you all have heard enough about KU in the past couple weeks, but here's one more post):

    Mark Mangino's record - years 1-6
    Year All Big 12
    2002 2-10 0-8 / 6th North
    2003 6-7 3-5 / t4th North
    2004 4-7 2-6 / t5th North
    2005 7-5 3-5 / 5th North
    2006 6-6 3-5 / 4th North
    2007 12-1 7-1 / t1st North

    Here's where the similarities start:
    - In his first, fourth, and fifth years at KU, Mangino played a South rotation of Texas, OU, and Texas Tech
    - In years two, three, and six, he played OSU, aTm, and BU.
    - Both were among the highest regarded assistants in the country and regarded as more than ready to start their own programs.

    So if Chizik gets fired before year six, he never really gets a chance. It is obvious to ISU fans that the talent within the program is growing and the team is very young. The problem is, it may just be too soon to get to a bowl within this year or the next. Switching South schedules will make it just as hard to get to a bowl in years four and five. Mangino, if you can recall, was probably on the top 5 on that list you linked before last season.

    Here's some reasons why Chizik might have it a little tougher than Mangino had it:
    - It may be a tad harder to recruit to Ames than Lawrence (less successful in basketball, colder, more rural area)
    - Mangino had the benefit of KSU, Nebraska, and CU all getting worse during his time. I'm not sure I see many North programs going down too far from their current position. Missou and KU may come down a little, but it's hard not to see CU and NU come back strong.
    - I'm not sure there's another 5'9" QB out there who will be overlooked by nearly every team in the country just because of his height. Todd Reesing has just been a huge part of Mangino's success.

    However, there's some advantages Chizik has now over what Mangino had when he started:
    - KU's facilities were absolutely awful when Mangino took over. ISU's facilities aren't Texas's, but they're not bad.
    - ISU's fan support starting year two of Chizik is better than KU's starting year two of Mangino.
    - Chizik is likely more personable and has an easier time getting recruits to open up to him than MM.

    All in all, it would be a huge mistake to not give a coach (who was generally regarded as being one of the top assistants and future head coaches in the country when he was hired) a chance to show what he can do when he has all of his players and against a less murdurous schedule. JP must wait until after year 6, unless things are seriously wrong, to even consider a coaching change.



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    Re: Chizik on hot seat?

    To be perfectly honest, I thought he was until I came over here and learned more about your program, expectations, and the year you guys are having thus far. You guys are in the same boat as us where people just aren't informed about our respective programs. Can't blame them though. Neither of us is hardly ever in the spotlight. We've gotten some recently because of RG3, but other than that...just the opposing highlight reel lol.



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    Re: Chizik on hot seat?

    The first thing that is ridiculous is how many people spell ridiculous rediculous. The second thing is how Gene Chizik even made the list and the third thing is that they have Tuberville ahead of Fulmer.


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    Re: Chizik on hot seat?

    Chizik will hopefully be here for a long time



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    Re: Chizik on hot seat?

    The only thing more ridiculous than some uninformed website naming Chizik on a "Hot Seat" list is a thread dedicated to it.



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    Re: Chizik on hot seat?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfan964 View Post
    The first thing that is ridiculous is how many people spell ridiculous rediculous. The second thing is how Gene Chizik even made the list and the third thing is that they have Tuberville ahead of Fulmer.
    Just saw this after my post. Good thing I spelling it right.



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    Re: Chizik on hot seat?

    Quote Originally Posted by ISU_Alum_2000 View Post
    Just saw this after my post. Good thing I spelling it right.
    Well, at least you can spell.



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