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    Angry WTF BIG 12??

    This is the FIRST time in recent years that ISU has been on the receiving side of a bad call (ie: Seneca TD run against Florida State, The feild goal kick over the top of the post against Alabama in the Independence Bowl, the TD catch by Bylthe and Flynn in the Nebraska game) NEVER has the Big 12 or officiating crew given an apology to ISU!!!

    Holding or no holding on the final play...ISU outplayed Mizzou from 2nd-mid fourth Qtr. Mizzou had plenty of other chances through out the game. It should have not come down to the final play if they are so great and "WON" the game. ISU was the better team and BEAT Mizzou. The whole thing is BS...it makes the Big12 look bad, makes the Mizzou coach look like a whinny little school girl, and takes away the TERRIFIC game played by ISU!!! THE BIG 12 NEEDS TO SHOW RESPECT TO ALL THEIR TEAMS, not just bowl eligible ones or the Big name ones! WE DESERVE to be treated with just as much RESPECT! Maybe with the new coach we need to look for a new conference....We are not just in this conference to play the role of "a gimme win for our big name schools for better bowl games."


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    Re: WTF BIG 12??

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUTimm4 View Post
    Its all bout the $$$."

    We play in the Big XII, but in reality we play in a Conference for Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Nebraska. If it is good for these 4 schools it is apparantly good for the Big XII.



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    Re: WTF BIG 12??

    Actually, I don't really think the Big 12 cares if Missouri and Nebraska "go to better bowls". That statement doesn't make sense...The Big 12 bowl affiliations don't change. The only thing that changes is which teams go where. The Big 12 will make the same amount of money from it's bowl teams no matter who goes where. Unless of course they get 2 teams in the BCS, then I would support some of your statements.

    I could maybe see the Nebraska thing, but not Missouri.



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    Re: WTF BIG 12??

    You're right. In terms of pure $$$ for the bowl game, it makes little difference.

    But what does make a marketing difference is a team going 6-6 (7-5, whatever Mizzery is) instead of another win over the worst team in the conference. The head office wants a log jam at the top tier bowls, not the lower ones.



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    Re: WTF BIG 12??

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    I could maybe see the Nebraska thing, but not Missouri.
    The Big XII could want Missouri to win because of the St Louis and Kansas City TV markets. If Missouri became a power in football it would really bring in those 2 markets and more $$$.



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    Re: WTF BIG 12??

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    Actually, I don't really think the Big 12 cares if Missouri and Nebraska "go to better bowls". That statement doesn't make sense...The Big 12 bowl affiliations don't change. The only thing that changes is which teams go where. The Big 12 will make the same amount of money from it's bowl teams no matter who goes where. Unless of course they get 2 teams in the BCS, then I would support some of your statements.

    I could maybe see the Nebraska thing, but not Missouri.
    Do you support the apology made to Mizzou??
    The point I was trying to make is that where is OUR appology for blown calls? Where is the justifaction for the Big 12 to make an appology to Mizzou and not ISU?



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    Re: WTF BIG 12??

    The apology is absolute crap. You can call holding on every down, Missouri just happened to get caught this time. Take it like a man Coach Pinkel and stop whining about it, you lost.


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    Re: WTF BIG 12??

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUTimm4 View Post
    Do you support the apology made to Mizzou??
    The point I was trying to make is that where is OUR appology for blown calls? Where is the justifaction for the Big 12 to make an appology to Mizzou and not ISU?
    Well you edited your post after I posted some things...your original post had a conspiracy theory to it, the new one does not so my response was really about the original post not the new one.

    No, I don't support the apology. I would like to see the Big 12 put out a press release saying they blew the call but to my knowledge, they haven't done so and I don't think they will. Only this little private "call" to Pinkel. That's crap.



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    Re: WTF BIG 12??

    Quote Originally Posted by VII_Fe View Post
    We play in the Big XII, but in reality we play in a Conference for Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Nebraska. If it is good for these 4 schools it is apparantly good for the Big XII.

    you have hit the nail on the head!!!


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    Re: WTF BIG 12??

    From ESPN Article:
    "He said to me, 'If you call that [holding] you have to call it 40 times a game,'" Pinkel said.

    So Pinkel admits that they should have been called for 40 holding penalties in that game?



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    Re: WTF BIG 12??

    In all honesty, I remember we had somewhat of an apology during the ISU-KU game at the phog 3 years ago. That was where Homan was shooting free throws and after he missed the first, KU went down and scored and they counted it and homan was supposed to have two free throws. Also, later in the game, KU hit a 3 pointer that was blatently obvious that he was on the line and nothing was done. Thus we lost by 1. I remember the ref getting reprimanded.....but thats as close as its been to an apology for ISU


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    Re: WTF BIG 12??

    I still scratch my head on that call. Homan missed the front end, KU took the ball down and popped a 3. The clock never started, as the bench officials knew it was a two shot foul. The refs conferred, and awarded the trey but didn't take time off the clock. Then, to my absolute disbelief, they reformed everyone at the free throw line and gave the ball to Homan to complete the free throws. It was the most singularly bizarre play I have ever witnessed. I scrubbed through the rules after that game, and the correct call on the play would have been to give KU a technical foul for delay of game.



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