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    World War III???

    Bottom line up-front:

    Georgia has attacked Ossetia, a breakaway province of Georgia, with their military, today. So, tonight Russia attacks Georgia with their military.

    Ummm, Georgia is our ally right now, and the US has troops there, advising their military. I'm pretty darned sure that Georgia didn't exactly consult with us before they attacked Ossetia. In fact, I happen to know that this is as big a surprise to us, as it was to Russia.

    Anyone else ever hear of a dude named Ferdinand, and a dude named Gavrilo Princip?

    This, no matter how it turns out, is NOT going to be good.

    I think prayers and thoughts should be with the leaders of Georgia, Russia and the US, right now.

    I know the upcoming football season has everyone hyped, but this has the possibilities of turning out worse than we can imagine.


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    Re: World War III???

    I heard the Olympics will be in that area in a few years. That will hopefully will help settle this down.


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    Re: World War III???

    What is the conflict about? I no nothing of these people.



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    Re: World War III???

    So if Georgia did not let us know they were going to do this and if we don't condone their action, how does this affect us directly? I would say that Georgia is SOL if they want us to defend them (of course I don't know details).



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    Re: World War III???

    Ossetia wants to break away from Georgia and join Russia.



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    Re: World War III???

    Quote Originally Posted by norseclone View Post
    Ossetia wants to break away from Georgia and join Russia.

    So why dont they? Whats the big deal?



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    Re: World War III???

    wait, I thought georgia was a state...



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    Re: World War III???

    The only way this escalates is if we get involved. We cannot continue to police the world. Not only is it just not right but we do not have the resources.



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    Re: World War III???

    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    . . . Georgia has attacked Ossetia, a breakaway province of Georgia, with their military, today. So, tonight Russia attacks Georgia with their military. . . .
    Wasn't this pretty much the set-up in the film "Crimson Tide" (Gene Hackman, Denzel Washington), concerning the command decision to fire or not fire SLBMs from the ballistic missile submarine USS Alabama?

    To think that the small size of the U.S. Army in the late 1930s ranked something like 37th in the world in number, iirc. In some ways, I long for those days.



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    Re: World War III???

    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    Bottom line up-front:

    Georgia has attacked Ossetia, a breakaway province of Georgia, with their military, today. So, tonight Russia attacks Georgia with their military.

    Ummm, Georgia is our ally right now, and the US has troops there, advising their military. I'm pretty darned sure that Georgia didn't exactly consult with us before they attacked Ossetia. In fact, I happen to know that this is as big a surprise to us, as it was to Russia.

    Anyone else ever hear of a dude named Ferdinand, and a dude named Gavrilo Princip?

    This, no matter how it turns out, is NOT going to be good.

    I think prayers and thoughts should be with the leaders of Georgia, Russia and the US, right now.

    I know the upcoming football season has everyone hyped, but this has the possibilities of turning out worse than we can imagine.
    For the hawkeye fans in our audience, Phaedrus is talking about Georgia the small European country. Not the State of Georgia.


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    Re: World War III???

    Quote Originally Posted by CyValley View Post
    Wasn't this pretty much the set-up in the film "Crimson Tide" (Gene Hackman, Denzel Washington), concerning the command decision to fire or not fire SLBMs from the ballistic missile submarine USS Alabama?

    To think that the small size of the U.S. Army in the late 1930s ranked something like 37th in the world in number, iirc. In some ways, I long for those days.
    Longing for the 30's? WTF?

    You DO realize that the 30's were followed by the 40's, right? You may remember some of the events from that decade from your tenth grade history class.



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    Re: World War III???

    want to know why we'll get involved?
    Russia, Georgia troops battle on border - Russia - MSNBC.com
    Georgia has allied itself with the West and is pushing for membership in NATO, a bid strongly backed by the Bush administration. It lies at the heart of a region emerging as a vital energy transit route.



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    Re: World War III???

    Why do they always attack the villagers in retaliation. Seriously.



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    Re: World War III???

    I just read a summary from Gabriel Malor over at the Ace of Spades HQ (www.ace.mu.nu), and he's trying to stay on top of this issue.

    I think the reason for Georgia sending troops into Osettia is that separatist militias have been lobbing artillery onto Georgian civilians from the contested territory for quite some time now. Putin & his sockpuppet have been encouraging the separatists, but I don't think anyone should have any question that if Osettia breaks off from Georgia that Russia won't swoop in & grab it for herself.

    Gabe did a pretty good "compare & contrast" with this issue vs. Kosovo's independence from Serbia back in the 90's, and the issues aren't nearly as equal as you might think.

    One warning: The language over at Ace's gets a little salty at times, so don't say I didn't warn you. I post there occasionally, and I'm always up for blogpimping my friends, especially when they do good work.



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    Re: World War III???

    I don't think it was entirely unexpected. Maybe the scope and scale of it, but Georgia and Russia have been saber-rattling over Ossetia for quite some time. It's not like the Ossetians are all that fond of the Georgians either. Ossetia has largely been a de-facto independent nation for some time now, and they really have no desire to reconcile with Georgia.

    Wake me up when the Russians move past Ossetia.


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