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    YAC

    This year, we are striving for better yards after contact. I think that ISU's previous coach downplayed YAC because it was an opportunity for turnovers - and we did have a lot of fumbles after contact. Even in the NFL, you see guys like Jerry Rice who catch and fall down before getting hit. Is there a double-edged sword involved with YAC? How does someone know when an extra defender might go for a strip? Is there judgement involved by the ball carrier (mainly one-on-one situations)? Or is a safer technique taught for holding on after contact?



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    Re: YAC

    Quote Originally Posted by hoosman View Post
    This year, we are striving for better yards after contact. I think that ISU's previous coach downplayed YAC because it was an opportunity for turnovers - and we did have a lot of fumbles after contact. Even in the NFL, you see guys like Jerry Rice who catch and fall down before getting hit. Is there a double-edged sword involved with YAC? How does someone know when an extra defender might go for a strip? Is there judgement involved by the ball carrier (mainly one-on-one situations)? Or is a safer technique taught for holding on after contact?
    The best way to get YAC is to hit a receiver in stride. In the past, the approach was more for a receiver to get to a spot, turn, and wait for the ball. This gives the defender time to react and close on the ball which limits YAC.



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    Re: YAC

    Steve hit the nail on the head. Hitting a receiver in stride wan not evne given a thought apparently during Mac reign. It use to **** me off no end. That the jump ball in the endzone. every team had to know if we were throwing inot the end zone, it would be a fade.



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    Re: YAC

    Hitting a receiver in stride seemed to be a difference in schemes between offensive coordinators and assistant coaches than with Mac himself. I remember the slant being a regular part of the ISU offense when Steve Loney was offensive coordinator. Under Barney Cotton, it seemed to be more about having our receivers find a soft spot in the zone or throw up a jump ball, and in man coverage, we seemed to look for the tight end - linebacker matchup mor than anything else.

    As for YAC with running backs, we had a four-year running back in Stevie Hicks who would go down if anyone touched his ankle. So, it's been quite some time since we've seen Hiawatha Rutland, Michael Wagner, Ennis Haywood, Darrin Davis, and Troy Davis, all of which had good YAC...some better than others, obviously.

    With all that said, I love how Chizik is calling YAC "Cyclone Yards" and he's emphasizing mental and physical toughness. With the stable of running backs we have right now, we SHOULD be running people over and getting good Cyclone Yards.



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    Re: YAC

    Just hold on to the darned ball. Nothing more frustrating than a player giving it that 'extra' we all cheer for and want to see only to have it end with him getting stripped.



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    Re: YAC

    Quote Originally Posted by hoosman View Post
    How does someone know when an extra defender might go for a strip?
    They will ALWAYS go for the strip. Always assume you are gonna get hit and someone will be going after the ball. Make moves and hold on to the ball with all you've got. Anyone can run through a giant hole created by the O-line, and anybody can catch a little 7 yard button-hook. The great ones can turn those plays into much more.



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    Re: YAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Clone9 View Post
    They will ALWAYS go for the strip. Always assume you are gonna get hit and someone will be going after the ball. Make moves and hold on to the ball with all you've got. Anyone can run through a giant hole created by the O-line, and anybody can catch a little 7 yard button-hook. The great ones can turn those plays into much more.
    I don't know about running through a huge hole...It seemed a few times we'd block a huge hole for Hicks and he'd be kind of slow to the hole and the hole would close up and only get a 1 or 2 yard gain. And I don't think anyone can catch a 7 yard button-hook given that the ball is in the air before you make your hook and its in your face right as you turn your head and look for the ball. Many of people would get clocked right in the face or the ball would be by them before they got their hands up to catch the ball



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    Re: YAC

    Another thing that the Mac era brought us: Talented runners who coughed up the ball a few times, and were never seen again.

    Note to self: Players can be coached not to fumble. Oddly enough, some of those very players went on to have better careers at some place other than ISU. I think that speaks volumes about prior coaching regimes.


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    Re: YAC

    hicks spent more trying to juke behind the line of scrimmage.did he think our offensive linemen was the defense??


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    Re: YAC

    Seemed like there were a lot of square out patterns run by Barney's offense, a lot of them were run too close to the first down marker and many resulted in not getting past the marker. Our YAC was darn near non-existant because our receivers were always running out of bounds as they were catching the ball.

    Not saying that this didn't happen in Chizik's first year here, but it just was something that annoyed me with Mac's last few teams because I noticed it happening a LOT.



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    Re: YAC

    Quote Originally Posted by hoosman View Post
    I think that ISU's previous coach downplayed YAC because it was an opportunity for turnovers - and we did have a lot of fumbles after contact.


    Any excuse to insult McCarney? Whst, you don't even remember Todd Blythe breaking tackle after tackle against Texas A&M on his way to all of those touchdowns? I suppose then that I shouldn't expect you to remember either of the Davis brothers, let alone Ennis Haywood...


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    Re: YAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    Another thing that the Mac era brought us: Talented runners who coughed up the ball a few times, and were never seen again.

    Note to self: Players can be coached not to fumble. Oddly enough, some of those very players went on to have better careers at some place other than ISU. I think that speaks volumes about prior coaching regimes.
    Umm...and how many times did you see Jason Harris run the ball last seaon under Chizik?



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    Re: YAC

    Ennis Haywood was really good at this. The Davis brothers were fun to watch too, but Ennis would pretty much run through people. He'd turn what looked like a 1 or 2 yard gain into 4 or 5.



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    Re: YAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobber View Post
    Ennis Haywood was really good at this. The Davis brothers were fun to watch too, but Ennis would pretty much run through people. He'd turn what looked like a 1 or 2 yard gain into 4 or 5.
    Darren just loved to spin off guys, and Troy would turn four or five yard gains into thirty. Just ask Missouri about YAC.

    Two bad he didn't have real breakaway speed.



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    Re: YAC

    Ill just take a catch as long as hes past the 1st down marker.


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