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    Francisco Liriano smoking through the minors

    Liriano has been pitching lights out baseball in the minors. Should the Twins be finding an opening for him?

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    Re: Francisco Liriano smoking through the minors

    As soon as one of the current starters begins to struggle... they need to bring him back.

    That... or they really need to decide which current starter could transform into a dominant bullpen guy for the rest of the year and bring him up.



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    Re: Francisco Liriano smoking through the minors

    Quote Originally Posted by jtd9046 View Post
    As soon as one of the current starters begins to struggle... they need to bring him back.

    That... or they really need to decide which current starter could transform into a dominant bullpen guy for the rest of the year and bring him up.
    Or bring him up and send down Boof and decide something from there.



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    Re: Francisco Liriano smoking through the minors

    Quote Originally Posted by mplscyclone View Post
    It's gotta be Boof. He can't get it done. He lost weight and still sucks. I don't know if he'll dominate in the bullpen, but spotting the other team 5 or 6 runs makes it hard to win. He's out of options, so they can't send him down.

    Also, Livan sucks. The only thing about him is that he eats innings and takes pressure off the bullpen. Would be surprised to see him come back with the team next year.
    Ummm. Boof hasn't been in the rotation since the beginning of the season.



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    Re: Francisco Liriano smoking through the minors

    I'm not ready to give up on Boof yet. You can never have enough pitching.

    There are sure to be teams out there that would take him, so maybe we can unload him for something.

    Maybe they could package him with Cuddyer and a AA prospect or 2 to get Beltre out of Seattle. Beltre is a Gold Glove 3rd Baseman, and his right handed bat would be a great fit between the 2 lefties (Mauer & Morneau).



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    Re: Francisco Liriano smoking through the minors

    Quote Originally Posted by jtd9046 View Post
    Ummm. Boof hasn't been in the rotation since the beginning of the season.

    I am a moron.... I haven't heard much from him. I don't get to follow the Twins as closely as in the past. I listened to a game on the radio where he started..... It seemed like a couple weeks ago, but it was actually a couple of months ago....

    I know we can't option Boof though for sure. We can try to trade him (no one will want him) or we can release him. He isn't make much so it won't be too much of a burden.

    Livan shouldn't be in any kind of a rotation either, but I don't know if he's all that usefull in the pen and he hurts the team more than he helps probably....

    Release Bonser, move Livan to the pen, and never use him.

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    Re: Francisco Liriano smoking through the minors

    Quote Originally Posted by loki8838 View Post
    I'm not ready to give up on Boof yet. You can never have enough pitching.

    There are sure to be teams out there that would take him, so maybe we can unload him for something.

    Maybe they could package him with Cuddyer and a AA prospect or 2 to get Beltre out of Seattle. Beltre is a Gold Glove 3rd Baseman, and his right handed bat would be a great fit between the 2 lefties (Mauer & Morneau).

    I just wish Cuddyer would man up and play 3rd. He came up as in IF, and his batting stats are better for a 3b compared to an OF.

    Plus we got Span who deserves to play every day. He shouldn't platoon or be in the minors... Stick him in RF instead

    Not a fan of Beltre



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    Re: Francisco Liriano smoking through the minors

    Quote Originally Posted by mplscyclone View Post
    I just wish Cuddyer would man up and play 3rd. He came up as in IF, and his batting stats are better for a 3b compared to an OF.

    Plus we got Span who deserves to play every day. He shouldn't platoon or be in the minors... Stick him in RF instead

    Not a fan of Beltre
    After Cuddyer succeeded in RF, he finally admitted that he struggled at 3B because he is deaf in his left ear. Not a good situation when you can't hear what the SS is trying to tell you. He didn't say anything earlier because he believed that it would hurt his chances of making it in the big leagues. He will never go back to 3B.

    BTW, there are now rumors floating around that the Twins are also pursuing Atkins, Blaylock, or Blake.



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    Re: Francisco Liriano smoking through the minors

    Cuddy has one of the best arms from RF in the majors. No way he gives up that spot. I love all the speed (Gomez, Casilla, Punto, and Span) but gotta give one of the OF up for some power when Cuddy comes back.



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    Re: Francisco Liriano smoking through the minors

    Quote Originally Posted by jtd9046 View Post
    Cuddy has one of the best arms from RF in the majors. No way he gives up that spot. I love all the speed (Gomez, Casilla, Punto, and Span) but gotta give one of the OF up for some power when Cuddy comes back.
    Alright then, well maybe Denard can play third base.



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    Re: Francisco Liriano smoking through the minors

    Greg Genske who is Liriano's agent has asked the players’ union to investigate why Liriano remains in Rochester despite going 7-0 with a 2.73 ERA in his past nine starts.

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    Re: Francisco Liriano smoking through the minors

    Quote Originally Posted by alaskaguy View Post
    Greg Genske who is Liriano's agent has asked the players’ union to investigate why Liriano remains in Rochester despite going 7-0 with a 2.73 ERA in his past nine starts.

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    Well, since he has options there is really nothing to investigate...



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    Re: Francisco Liriano smoking through the minors

    He's grabbing for straws and it's simply a play by his agent and Liriano to get more money.

    He's basing it on the fact that he is fast approaching the deadline for his MLB service required to qualify for arbitration (3 years). I'm not sure the exact date, but if he doesn't come up soon he will have less than the 3 years and the Twins will most likely save $1 million in the '09 season.

    I would see his point if the Twins were playing poorly right now and he wasn't called up. You can't exactly pull a starter from the rotation when you win 21 of 27 to close out the first half.

    That and they wouldn't have brought him up in the beginning of the season if they had arbitration on their minds.



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    Re: Francisco Liriano smoking through the minors

    Get rid of Livan! Or put him and then pen and cut Brian Bass for the sake of God

    Man we need Neshek back in the pen so bad



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    Re: Francisco Liriano smoking through the minors

    His first few starts in the minors were terrible. High pitch counts, lots of walks and hits allowed, etc. He's been good for the last 4-5 weeks but that is all.

    I'm all for having him in the majors, when the team is 100% convinced he is ready.

    It appears that day is coming. But this is the same guy who didn't tell the team his elbow was hurting back in 2006. How would it feel to let say Livan go to make room for Liriano and then have him flame out again?

    The rotation is set for now....other guys have been stuck in the minors because there is no room in the majors. He needs to suck it up and deal with it. As always in baseball there will be an injury and he will get his shot. After making such a big deal out of this he better be ready.



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