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    OWH Article on MBB Transfers

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    Barfy wrote an article on transfers in MBB and Wes Johnson in particular. His take - it is less of an I State problem, and more cultural. Some interesting quotes from McDermott, Doc Sadler, and Pat Knight.


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    Re: OWH Article on MBB Transfers

    good article. I'm really tired of all the transfers. They need to make a rule harsher so it will discourage them from transfering a lot. But it can be lifted for guys who go in front of the NCAA and have a legitimate reason for transfering



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    Re: OWH Article on MBB Transfers

    The transfer problem is discouraging, but I'm not sure what the best solution is. How can you tie a player to a school when coaches can come and go at almost any time?



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    Re: OWH Article on MBB Transfers

    It would be neat if someone could research a school that is not having turnover problems and find out why they are having success.



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    Re: OWH Article on MBB Transfers

    The article highlights how hard the coaching job is outside of the actual coaching. The recruiting effort anymore requires more effort than teaching kids how to play the game. It is getting bad. There really ought to be harsher penalties for the kids who transfer. Schools are giving these kids a free education and putting the schools neck on the line but the schools have no insurance. It is too one-sided with the schools paying the price.


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    Re: OWH Article on MBB Transfers

    If they make it harder on the kids to transfer, they need to make it harder on the coaches as well.



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    Re: OWH Article on MBB Transfers

    Quote Originally Posted by jtaconutz View Post
    It would be neat if someone could research a school that is not having turnover problems and find out why they are having success.
    Luck is surely a factor in their success... probably more so than winning. KU has had guys leave their program to... so there's more to it than just winning. Coach McDermott said it best. "You map out a plan early in their career for your expectations and then try to get the parents or the high school coach or the AAU coach to agree with what you're asking them to do." If you do all that, there's not much more you can do.



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    Re: OWH Article on MBB Transfers

    Quote Originally Posted by CyinCo View Post
    The article highlights how hard the coaching job is outside of the actual coaching. The recruiting effort anymore requires more effort than teaching kids how to play the game. It is getting bad. There really ought to be harsher penalties for the kids who transfer. Schools are giving these kids a free education and putting the schools neck on the line but the schools have no insurance. It is too one-sided with the schools paying the price.
    First, I agree with your thoughts that the transferring needs to be tougher. But, I wouldn't call it 1-sided...the school makes millions of these guys and they get several thousand of it for an education. Problem is that it has become such a high dollar sport that these kids are now becoming businessmen and are looking for the best way possible to cash in on their talent. If there was less money involved in college and pro basketball there wouldn't be near as many transfers.



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    Re: OWH Article on MBB Transfers

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclonedefender View Post
    good article. I'm really tired of all the transfers. They need to make a rule harsher so it will discourage them from transfering a lot. But it can be lifted for guys who go in front of the NCAA and have a legitimate reason for transfering
    I agree. The least they could do is to make a deadline for transferring. That way we won't have people transferring after they have already signed up to play next season.



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    Re: OWH Article on MBB Transfers

    Quote Originally Posted by CyinCo View Post
    The article highlights how hard the coaching job is outside of the actual coaching. The recruiting effort anymore requires more effort than teaching kids how to play the game. It is getting bad. There really ought to be harsher penalties for the kids who transfer. Schools are giving these kids a free education and putting the schools neck on the line but the schools have no insurance. It is too one-sided with the schools paying the price.
    While it's true that colleges have no guarantees from the players, they do reap the benefits of hundreds of thousands of dollars in revenue that helps fund many other non-revenue sports.



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    Re: OWH Article on MBB Transfers

    I would make it so tranfers have to reimburse their old schools for the scholdarship money they used.



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    Re: OWH Article on MBB Transfers

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyfan322 View Post
    I agree. The least they could do is to make a deadline for transferring. That way we won't have people transferring after they have already signed up to play next season.
    A deadline might work, but what about when someone misses that deadline and then "holdouts" like so many of their professional role models have done? That could get ugly.

    Also think about the "real world" where a lot of people switch jobs every 2-3 years. Definitely a cultural issue.


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    Re: OWH Article on MBB Transfers

    That was a good article. It is obvious in the words that McDermott uses he is still pretty ticked off about the WJ situation. What a constant pain for coaches, not only do you have to worry about bringing in a strong class each year, now they have to hope that the players they have don't bolt.



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    Why do people have to always quote that universities make gobs of money off of athletes? A lot of that money goes back into the system in order to help countless other people get an education or pursue a dream. Meanwhile, the athlete gets to pursue their dream. Being able to play a sport in college is a privilege which should be earned. If one player is able to single-handedly bring a college millions of dollars he or she will not be needing money after they graduate, if you get my meaning.



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    Re: OWH Article on MBB Transfers

    Someone said the most important recuriting you do is the recuriting your current players. It is a hard problem to figure out. College kids with scholarships trans all the time. Some of these kids are promised a lot, and when things take a wrong turn and it is not as good as you thought you get mad and leave. Both sides need to be looked at. I had track offers at smaller schools out of HS. You go look around talk to coaches and they tell you all the good things. Sometimes it is best to be honest with kids. Sometimes you are pegged as a star and it doesnt work out or vise versa. Remember most of these kids are used to being the star and having their *** kissed and their sport coming easy for them. College is a whole different ball game than HS.


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