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    Stupid questions on flooding

    Why do people build new houses near a river and act suprised when the river floods damages their property and or house? Dont give me 500 yr flood. If it flooded once it can and prob will flood again. Why are new buildings being built in areas that can and do flood? I do feel sorry for people that go through this but part of me says use your head a little bit.


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    Re: Stupid questions on flooding

    I have another stupid question... Will the flooding rivers increase the chance for basement backups, even if you aren't near a river? My basement is really dry for an old house so my only fear is crap coming up from the sewer...



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    Re: Stupid questions on flooding

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    Why do people build new houses near a river and act suprised when the river floods damages their property and or house? Dont give me 500 yr flood. If it flooded once it can and prob will flood again. Why are new buildings being built in areas that can and do flood? I do feel sorry for people that go through this but part of me says use your head a little bit.
    I bet the property is really cheap in flood prone areas. It might be a risk they are willing to take. Other than that, I have no clue...


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    Re: Stupid questions on flooding

    If you dont have drains or a bathroom in your basement is shouldnt be a problem. If you do just hope your sump pump can keep up.


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    Re: Stupid questions on flooding

    It is looking right now with no more rain the cedar river will be 5 inches below the level of our buildings. Which would be a new record, with more rain I think they will for sure flood.
    While I agree with your thoughts, alot of these rains are also effecting people in areas that have not flooded ever before.

    As for sewer backups, I was out bagging things out in Palo yesterday to prevent those. As I imagine most cities are. So it will determine on if those measures that were taken actually work.



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    Re: Stupid questions on flooding

    ok ... this is a little stupid this year. Entire towns being evacuated right now, so yes, 100 flood data is taken into account ... but 100 years comes around every once in a while.

    poor city planning leads to some problems. I know Mason City is working to buy people out of some flood prone areas ... but its a slow process if people haven't had problems, this year will probably speed up the process.

    Citys were built around water early on to provide transporation, irrigation, electrical power (both in the form of dams and for cooling over fossil sites).



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    Re: Stupid questions on flooding

    Quote Originally Posted by cybsball20 View Post
    I have another stupid question... Will the flooding rivers increase the chance for basement backups, even if you aren't near a river? My basement is really dry for an old house so my only fear is crap coming up from the sewer...
    Are you in an old neighborhood in Des Moines (I'm guessing you are if you have an old house)? In some of the old DSM neighborhoods, storm water and household waste run through the same sewer lines. I had a house in the Drake neighborhood. After a big storm the sewer line got blocked by debris, and we had storm/sewage water backing up through the drain in our basement. It left a few inches of standing "water" until they cleared the blockage. Not fun.



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    Re: Stupid questions on flooding

    Quote Originally Posted by AIT View Post
    Are you in an old neighborhood in Des Moines (I'm guessing you are if you have an old house)? In some of the old DSM neighborhoods, storm water and household waste run through the same sewer lines. I had a house in the Drake neighborhood. After a big storm the sewer line got blocked by debris, and we had storm/sewage water backing up through the drain in our basement. It left a few inches of standing "water" until they cleared the blockage. Not fun.
    Yeah, I'm in Beaverdale... Haven't had any problems at all with the hard rains, I just wasn't sure how the sewage system worked here...



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    Re: Stupid questions on flooding

    This reminds me of my relatives that moved from Iowa to live on the coast of Florida by about 10 city blocks. Week 3 of living there and they got a Hurricane. Why would you live in place where your gut tells you there is a decent chance the house will be damaged within the next 10 years?

    Good luck. I am glad Bondurant doesn't have a river, but I always worry about city sewage backing up nomatter where I live. Talk about the phrase don't S**t on your neighbor.
    I think you proably have more of a chance of a septic problem than city though.



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    Re: Stupid questions on flooding

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    Yeah, I'm in Beaverdale... Haven't had any problems at all with the hard rains, I just wasn't sure how the sewage system worked here...
    I'm guessing Beaverdale's sewage system is set up differently, but that's just a guess. I remember hearing that DSM wanted to redo the sewers to fix that issue in those neighborhoods, but I haven't paid much attention since I moved out of that house 8-9 years ago.



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    Re: Stupid questions on flooding

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    This reminds me of my relatives that moved from Iowa to live on the coast of Florida by about 10 city blocks. Week 3 of living there and they got a Hurricane. Why would you live in place where your gut tells you there is a decent chance the house will be damaged within the next 10 years?

    Good luck. I am glad Bondurant doesn't have a river, but I always worry about city sewage backing up nomatter where I live. Talk about the phrase don't S**t on your neighbor.
    I think you proably have more of a chance of a septic problem than city though.
    Half the town of what now is Bondurant had water sitting on it in the past. Just because there is no river close doesnt mean your basement cannot flood. Look how Boundurant sits, it is a low spot, and a lot of water from higher areas flew through it.

    I figured all storm water and sewer water had to be seperate, learn something everyday.

    I understand this flood could be the worse ever, but there are some places that dont always flood but do flood once every 10 years or so, those are the areas I had questions about.


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    Re: Stupid questions on flooding

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    Why do people build new houses near a river and act suprised when the river floods damages their property and or house? Dont give me 500 yr flood. If it flooded once it can and prob will flood again. Why are new buildings being built in areas that can and do flood? I do feel sorry for people that go through this but part of me says use your head a little bit.

    See New Orleans, the whole city is a bowl with water basically surrounding it. What is even more crazy is that some people do not have flood insurance there and expect you and me to donate money to them for rebuilding. Even after we have donated millions they need the federal government to step in and give them millions more.



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    Re: Stupid questions on flooding

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    I have another stupid question... Will the flooding rivers increase the chance for basement backups, even if you aren't near a river? My basement is really dry for an old house so my only fear is crap coming up from the sewer...
    It all has to do with water levels.....I would spend the 3-5 bucks at the hardware store to plug floor and toliet drains......it is well worth the effort.....Clean up is miserable



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    Re: Stupid questions on flooding

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    I figured all storm water and sewer water had to be seperate, learn something everyday.
    I'm sure in newer sewer systems (ie, anything from the past 75 years) they are separate. Some of the older DSM sewers haven't been updated since they were built about a century ago.



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    Re: Stupid questions on flooding

    Quote Originally Posted by AIT View Post
    I'm sure in newer sewer systems (ie, anything from the past 75 years) they are separate. Some of the older DSM sewers haven't been updated since they were built about a century ago.
    This is pretty much true. There has been design work done to separate the storm and sanitary sewers north and east of the Drake area. It is awfully expsnsive and difficult to do this (tear up existing streets and infrastucture, replace, deal with people who don't want this to happen, etc.)



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