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    Jeff Van Gundy

    Can we get a poll up for how much people hate this guy? I can't believe a former coach in the NBA could possibly say some of the things he says. I don't know if anyone else heard it tonight, but he actually wants to give players a total of 7 available fouls or do away with fouling out completely. Are you kidding me? He mentioned there didn't used to be a 3-point line and now everyone loves it.... he's hoping fouls become a thing of the past as well.


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    Sweet!!! No more Hack a Shaq. LOL! Just kidding. This is just unbelievable.



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    Re: Jeff Van Gundy

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfan964 View Post
    Can we get a poll up for how much people hate this guy? I can't believe a former coach in the NBA could possibly say some of the things he says. I don't know if anyone else heard it tonight, but he actually wants to give players a total of 7 available fouls or do away with fouling out completely. Are you kidding me? He mentioned there didn't used to be a 3-point line and now everyone loves it.... he's hoping fouls become a thing of the past as well.
    I heard that too, but didn't realize it was Lurch talking. To give BB players unlimited fouls with no penalty of fouling out, would only denigrate the defense of the NBA. The other announcer practically started a huge argument; I'm sure the producers told them to cool it.


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    Re: Jeff Van Gundy

    I kind of like his commentary. And I understand what he's saying... Kobe gets 2 ticky tack fouls in the 1st quarter and it basically changes the whole outcome of the game. It would be like if you get called for holding in football, you have to sit out. He's right that no other sport is like basketball in that regard. I don't necessarily agree with him, but pretty interesting.



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    Re: Jeff Van Gundy

    It seems like Van Gundy and Mark Jackson wanna strangle each other for some of the stuff the other says.

    I like that there is someone calling the game that isnt just toeing the company line and saying nothing but positive things about the league. Its refreshing. I don't agree with it all, but some of it is nice to hear.


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    I even like the sarcasm from JeffyVG when they mentioned Mark Jackson and Magic Johnson in the top 3 for assists.


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    Re: Jeff Van Gundy

    Quote Originally Posted by Go2Guy View Post
    I heard that too, but didn't realize it was Lurch talking. To give BB players unlimited fouls with no penalty of fouling out, would only denigrate the defense of the NBA. The other announcer practically started a huge argument; I'm sure the producers told them to cool it.
    I've heard this argument before, so I don't think Van Gundy was the first to think of it. Fouling a guy still gives him free throws, so there's still a penalty for hacking away. It might be an interesting experiment to try in exhibitions, but I have a feeling teams would beat the snot out of each other on defense and dare the refs to call everything. Either the refs would call more fouls and slow the game to an unwatchable pace, or they'd let even more go, and I don't like either of those scenarios.



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    I love Van Gundy's commentary. He says things and gives viewpoints no other commentators do. At least he's original. The guys I can't stand are Mike Tirico and Hubie Brown who say some of the most obvious stuff, its like they're explaining the game to a person who has never seen basketball before.



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    He says some of the dumbest things I have ever hear. He just pisses me off. It is so darn annoying to listen to these terrible announcer.


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    Re: Jeff Van Gundy

    Quote Originally Posted by isutrevman View Post
    I love Van Gundy's commentary. He says things and gives viewpoints no other commentators do. At least he's original. The guys I can't stand are Mike Tirico and Hubie Brown who say some of the most obvious stuff, its like they're explaining the game to a person who has never seen basketball before.
    I have to disagree on Tirico, I really think he does a nice job.


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    Re: Jeff Van Gundy

    It seems to me that rules like 7 or no foul limit reduce the strategy involved in the game. I would rather watch a little bit of the chess match between coaches and not just a complete athletic contest. Not to invoke the tired DH argument but NL baseball is much better than AL ball because of the added strategic component, IMO.



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    Re: Jeff Van Gundy

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfan964 View Post
    Can we get a poll up for how much people hate this guy? I can't believe a former coach in the NBA could possibly say some of the things he says. I don't know if anyone else heard it tonight, but he actually wants to give players a total of 7 available fouls or do away with fouling out completely. Are you kidding me? He mentioned there didn't used to be a 3-point line and now everyone loves it.... he's hoping fouls become a thing of the past as well.
    Dickie V said the same thing. It really does change the game when your star gets a few chippys early. Happened to Beasley in the KU game in Lawrence this year and that is one in countless examples. I don't think the rules should be changed, but the premise of the argument is very valid.

    Personally, I imagine a world where referees are completely taken out of the equation and it is all refereed by perfectly judging computer systems. Refs just screw it up too much.



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    Re: Jeff Van Gundy

    I think Breen, Van Gundy, and Jackson are great together. Van Gundy is one of my favorites because he knows what he's talking about and has the ability to be serious and very funny at the same time. I agree with the 7 fouls and think it should be raised to 6 in college. You're still being penalized for fouling with the bonus rules.



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    Re: Jeff Van Gundy

    Quote Originally Posted by AIT View Post
    ...and slow the game to an unwatchable pace...
    It already is.

    Celtics/Lakers series - average 2:44:00

    Cubs/Dodgers series - average 2:45:45



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    Quote Originally Posted by theshadow View Post
    It already is.

    Celtics/Lakers series - average 2:44:00

    Cubs/Dodgers series - average 2:45:45
    Wow!!! Never thought I'd see the day that basketball games take as long as baseball games. One of the primary reasons I enjoy basketball is because it doesn't eat my night/day. How long does it take for the average pro-golfer to complete a round of golf?



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