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    Appeals court rules Texas had no right to seize children from polygamous sect.


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    Re: Appeals court rules Texas had no right to seize children from polygamous sect.

    I love courts.



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    Re: Appeals court rules Texas had no right to seize children from polygamous sect.

    It is VERY hard to legally remove kids from their homes, no matter what is going on....



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    Re: Appeals court rules Texas had no right to seize children from polygamous sect.

    Common sense < letter of the law



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    Re: Appeals court rules Texas had no right to seize children from polygamous sect.

    It seems to me the only thing the government has is statutory rape. It went beyond it's bounds when they separated all kids from the mothers. They really need to have reasonable suspicion that individual(s) are causing danger and then move accordingly. It's reasonable to think that there were some that did not break the law. They acted too broadly.


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    Re: Appeals court rules Texas had no right to seize children from polygamous sect.

    I'm sure this will open the door to million $ settlements to these "mothers" who let these perverts rape their daughters.



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    Re: Appeals court rules Texas had no right to seize children from polygamous sect.

    So, one anonymous phone call from a woman who was lying about her "tip" = the right to take children from parents?

    The court was correct. If the abuse was prevalent and long-term, there is no real pressing need for the raid/seizure of kids.

    The same thing happens at Cabrini Green in Chicago, every day of the week, with the exception that those folks aren't viewed as "freaks" by society.

    Now, it's up to the government to do this correctly, and to actually do their jobs, law enforcement-wise.

    By all rights, they should be able to fry some of these guys, but law enforcement can't take shortcuts.


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    Re: Appeals court rules Texas had no right to seize children from polygamous sect.

    I am pretty liberal , but to take that stance with these scumbugs/perverts is ridiculous. These men have set a child sex camp and try to hide it under religion, to defend this under any law is unbelievable.



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    Re: Appeals court rules Texas had no right to seize children from polygamous sect.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2020cy View Post
    I am pretty liberal , but to take that stance with these scumbugs/perverts is ridiculous. These men have set a child sex camp and try to hide it under religion, to defend this under any law is unbelievable.
    My issue isn't with the scumbags/perverts. It's with the way the police obtained access to take the kids to begin with.

    This is one of those "slippery slope" things.

    Now, if they want someone to push the plunger on the syringe on these scumbags/perverts, I'm their huckleberry.

    Personally, though, I'm a big fan of "the rule of law."


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    Re: Appeals court rules Texas had no right to seize children from polygamous sect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    My issue isn't with the scumbags/perverts. It's with the way the police obtained access to take the kids to begin with.

    This is one of those "slippery slope" things.

    Now, if they want someone to push the plunger on the syringe on these scumbags/perverts, I'm their huckleberry.

    Personally, though, I'm a big fan of "the rule of law."
    I very much agree. Law enforcement needs to do their due diligence, and justify removal of the children from their homes on a case by case basis. I think the downfall of their case is from removing all of them under one blanket theme.

    We have to be really careful when giving the government abilities such as this, because the definition of what's unsafe is an interpretation of ethics which is subject to the interpreter.

    With all that said, I hope that in this situation, they can find a way to justify it, because this certainly fits my definition of unsafe.



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