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    Regarding Wesley's injury

    I feel that I have it on pretty good authority that Wesley's fracture was something that could not have been spotted until he had a number of weeks of consecutive inactivity.

    Basically, the more activity you have, the more blood there will be in the bone. Being a basketball player of course provides a lot of activity to that area.

    It wasn't until Wesley totally shut down after the season was over, and they went back in and took more xrays that didn't have all of the blood in the bone, that the doctors found the stress fracture.

    I might have some of the 'technical' aspects wrong there, but that is the gist. So I do think the ISU medical staff didn't do anything 'wrong' in this situation; it was a condition that wasn't visible due to the amount of blood in the bone when they took pictures of it late fall and early winter...and only became visible after Wesley shut it down.


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    Re: Regarding Wesley's injury

    Quote Originally Posted by JonDMiller View Post
    I feel that I have it on pretty good authority that Wesley's fracture was something that could not have been spotted until he had a number of weeks of consecutive inactivity.

    Basically, the more activity you have, the more blood there will be in the bone. Being a basketball player of course provides a lot of activity to that area.

    It wasn't until Wesley totally shut down after the season was over, and they went back in and took more xrays that didn't have all of the blood in the bone, that the doctors found the stress fracture.

    I might have some of the 'technical' aspects wrong there, but that is the gist. So I do think the ISU medical staff did anything 'wrong' in this situation; it was a condition that wasn't visible due to the amount of blood in the bone when they took pictures of it late fall and early winter...and only became visible after Wesley shut it down.
    while it isn't completely clear, I think you meant that ISU DIDN'T do anything wrong.

    correct?

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    You're earning your Cyclone stripes today Jon, thanks for the info.


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    Re: Regarding Wesley's injury

    Quote Originally Posted by JonDMiller View Post
    I feel that I have it on pretty good authority that Wesley's fracture was something that could not have been spotted until he had a number of weeks of consecutive inactivity.

    Basically, the more activity you have, the more blood there will be in the bone. Being a basketball player of course provides a lot of activity to that area.

    It wasn't until Wesley totally shut down after the season was over, and they went back in and took more xrays that didn't have all of the blood in the bone, that the doctors found the stress fracture.

    I might have some of the 'technical' aspects wrong there, but that is the gist. So I do think the ISU medical staff did anything 'wrong' in this situation; it was a condition that wasn't visible due to the amount of blood in the bone when they took pictures of it late fall and early winter...and only became visible after Wesley shut it down.
    There is a doctor on CR who is saying the exact opposite. He said a bone scan would have detected the injury, regardless.



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    Re: Regarding Wesley's injury

    Quote Originally Posted by JonDMiller View Post
    I feel that I have it on pretty good authority that Wesley's fracture was something that could not have been spotted until he had a number of weeks of consecutive inactivity.

    Basically, the more activity you have, the more blood there will be in the bone. Being a basketball player of course provides a lot of activity to that area.

    It wasn't until Wesley totally shut down after the season was over, and they went back in and took more xrays that didn't have all of the blood in the bone, that the doctors found the stress fracture.

    I might have some of the 'technical' aspects wrong there, but that is the gist. So I do think the ISU medical staff did anything 'wrong' in this situation; it was a condition that wasn't visible due to the amount of blood in the bone when they took pictures of it late fall and early winter...and only became visible after Wesley shut it down.
    I believe this is what Wes and family were also told, when they went and got a 2nd Medical opinion from their Doctors in Detroit........Both Medical staffs agreed on the way that it had transpired.



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    Re: Regarding Wesley's injury

    With the info provided by a few here, it appears the injury had nothing to do with WJ leaving.



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    Re: Regarding Wesley's injury

    Quote Originally Posted by keepngoal View Post
    while it isn't completely clear, I think you meant that ISU DIDN'T do anything wrong.

    correct?

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    COrrect, that is what I meant



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    Re: Regarding Wesley's injury

    Quote Originally Posted by snowcraig2.0 View Post
    There is a doctor on CR who is saying the exact opposite. He said a bone scan would have detected the injury, regardless.
    I have heard the same from a doctor friend of mine...



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    Quote Originally Posted by snowcraig2.0 View Post
    There is a doctor on CR who is saying the exact opposite. He said a bone scan would have detected the injury, regardless.
    I am not a doctor. But I do know that analyzing a situation after the fact is much different than listening to a patient, what he describes, and then providing advice based on what you are hearing.

    Monday morning practitioner is much easier.



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    Re: Regarding Wesley's injury

    Sorry John, but your information is dead wrong. The staff basically didn't take Wesley's injury serious enough to get the test done that should have been.



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    Re: Regarding Wesley's injury

    Quote Originally Posted by JonDMiller View Post
    I feel that I have it on pretty good authority that Wesley's fracture was something that could not have been spotted until he had a number of weeks of consecutive inactivity.

    Basically, the more activity you have, the more blood there will be in the bone. Being a basketball player of course provides a lot of activity to that area.

    It wasn't until Wesley totally shut down after the season was over, and they went back in and took more xrays that didn't have all of the blood in the bone, that the doctors found the stress fracture.

    I might have some of the 'technical' aspects wrong there, but that is the gist. So I do think the ISU medical staff didn't do anything 'wrong' in this situation; it was a condition that wasn't visible due to the amount of blood in the bone when they took pictures of it late fall and early winter...and only became visible after Wesley shut it down.
    So do you feel that the staff pushed Wes to play through the injury when he was far less than 100%? Maybe Wes feels now that the staff possible jeopardized his career by pushing him to play through the injury and if they let him sit out until around January they would have caught the fracture and he could have used a redshirt. My guess is Wes feels betrayed by the staff and when the new diagnosis came out on the 8th it was kinda of a "see I told you there was something wrong" feeling and that was the last straw.



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    Re: Regarding Wesley's injury

    Quote Originally Posted by JonDMiller View Post
    I am not a doctor. But I do know that analyzing a situation after the fact is much different than listening to a patient, what he describes, and then providing advice based on what you are hearing.

    Monday morning practitioner is much easier.
    Agreed.

    Asking some random doctor friend proves nothing. I'll only believe in what the doctors that have actually put their hands on Wes's foot and have reviewed his charts. All the others are just making quasi-educated guesses.

    2 doctors said the same thing - both doctors saw him. One in Ames, one in Detroit. That's enough for me.



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    Re: Regarding Wesley's injury

    As far as the staff pushing him to play - anyone remember the Minnesota game? We're in the game late and Wes goes to Greg, trying to get into the game? No? Forgotten all about that, eh?

    Do I completely discredit the rumors that the staff was trying to find ways to get Wes on the court? Not at all.

    But it certainly does seem to me Wes wanted to be there more than anyone else wanted him there.



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    Re: Regarding Wesley's injury

    Quote Originally Posted by JonDMiller View Post
    I am not a doctor. But I do know that analyzing a situation after the fact is much different than listening to a patient, what he describes, and then providing advice based on what you are hearing.

    Monday morning practitioner is much easier.
    That is a great point. A doctor always wants to be right and it's far easier to assume you know facts after the actual event then what those involved actually knew at the time.


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    Re: Regarding Wesley's injury

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    As far as the staff pushing him to play - anyone remember the Minnesota game? We're in the game late and Wes goes to Greg, trying to get into the game? No? Forgotten all about that, eh?
    You are mistaken - I was the coach for a day that day and I made him sit out


    A program isn't built on one player and it doesn't succeed because of one player, thus a program won't fail if it doesn't get that one player.

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