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    Offensive skill positions

    Honestly, I know injuries are no excuse and a lot of teams have them at this point in the season, but last game, we were without our starting tailback and entire first team WR's. Flynn, Davis, Blythe were all out. Is there a team that can make that claim this year? That's unreal. Also, there is a decent chance we may not see any of those three again this week. Four starting skill position players all out, and maybe the worst offensive line in college football.

    That being said, something is finally happening that I wished would - in a lost season, I was hoping the young kids would be put out there so we'd have a chance to see the future at ISU. Of course I'm not happy to see players go down, but it's nice to get some experience for the young kids.




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    Re: Offensive skill positions

    I see your argument...but see the Iowa Hawkeyes from 2004 a few years ago..4 RBS go down and they still made it to a Jan 1 bowl game.

    They still had their WR's...but I dont think injuries are an excuse...the execution is what is critical when players go down, and we still have no execution on offense



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    Re: Offensive skill positions

    Flynn played last week. He had 3 catches for 25 yards. He wasn't 100%, but he played.

    Davis played the entire first half.

    You make a good point about injuries - but if there is any position we can take those hits and still should win - it's at receiver.



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    Re: Offensive skill positions

    With those guys missing time...you want to know the worst stat from last week's game.

    Tight ends - 1 catch for 18 yards.

    Ridiculous.

    Ryan Kock had 3 catches for 28 yards. How in the hell do we only get one ball to the tight ends?

    Oh, I have one answer...

    They're stuck blocking for Meyer.



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    Re: Offensive skill positions

    It would be fine to use injuries as a excuse for the KSU game if before all these guy were hurt the team played well. In reality Moses, Scales, the walk on WR (can't remember his name) and Hamilton have all done a very nice job. The losses on the defense have been far more noticable. The most painful part of the whole thing is that the two biggest losses for this team were from stupidity.



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    Re: Offensive skill positions

    I think Stevie Hicks on crutches would still be one of the better blockers.



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    Re: Offensive skill positions

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    With those guys missing time...you want to know the worst stat from last week's game.

    Tight ends - 1 catch for 18 yards.

    Ridiculous.

    Ryan Kock had 3 catches for 28 yards. How in the hell do we only get one ball to the tight ends?

    Oh, I have one answer...

    They're stuck blocking for Meyer.
    I agree, both Nickel and Barkema played big time roles for us last season, and their numbers were almost identical. That production has disappeared this season, along with the rest of the offense.

    I agree with others - it was nice to see Scales, Sumrall, Moses, Messiah, and Hamilton get some good exposure, and that will likely be the case again this weekend vs the Manginos.



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    Re: Offensive skill positions

    Having just written the previous comment, I have now become aware that we have both a Moses and a Messiah in our receiving corps. How can we possibly go wrong?



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    Re: Offensive skill positions

    devine intervention! The Cyclones may have a chance this week after all.



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    Re: Offensive skill positions

    Yeah I was really impressed with the way Moses played in the K-State game. He was shooting through defensive holes like the parted Red Sea. I also thought Messiah played quite well in his first real action. Who knows, maybe Messiah will ressurect our bowl chances. In all honesty, I think the receiving corps we have is a good one, even with some injuries. And I definitly agree we need to get those TEs involved more, even if they're just 4 or 5 yard quick passes.



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    Re: Offensive skill positions

    With the athletes we have at WR we should just run end arounds, reverses, WR throwbacks and what not. Take the draw out of the playbook. Maybe the coaches think you can only run in-between the hashes.



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    Re: Offensive skill positions

    When we play Missouri, their weak point is rush defense.


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    Re: Offensive skill positions

    Quote Originally Posted by Lastplace View Post
    I see your argument...but see the Iowa Hawkeyes from 2004 a few years ago..4 RBS go down and they still made it to a Jan 1 bowl game.

    They still had their WR's...but I dont think injuries are an excuse...the execution is what is critical when players go down, and we still have no execution on offense
    call me crazy, but i was not impressed with iowa's run that season, even though it led to a co-big 10 championship and a jan 1 bowl.

    their so-called big wins, beating ohio st., purdue, and wisconsin, came at a time when each of those schools were struggling. those 3 teams losing to iowa was a start of a 3, 4, 5 game losing streak for those schools.

    then there's last year's 7-4 team last year that went to a jan 1 bowl game.

    am i the only one thinking that iowa's not the team that the media likes to hype? am i the only one that thinks ferentz isn't doing the great job that everyone thinks he's doing, and he's only going to impressive bowls because the big 10 has better buy-ins and because the conference keeps collapsing around them?

    sorry, i must be crazy


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    Re: Offensive skill positions

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    call me crazy, but i was not impressed with iowa's run that season, even though it led to a co-big 10 championship and a jan 1 bowl.

    their so-called big wins, beating ohio st., purdue, and wisconsin, came at a time when each of those schools were struggling. those 3 teams losing to iowa was a start of a 3, 4, 5 game losing streak for those schools.

    then there's last year's 7-4 team last year that went to a jan 1 bowl game.

    am i the only one thinking that iowa's not the team that the media likes to hype? am i the only one that thinks ferentz isn't doing the great job that everyone thinks he's doing, and he's only going to impressive bowls because the big 10 has better buy-ins and because the conference keeps collapsing around them?

    sorry, i must be crazy
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    call me crazy, but i was not impressed with iowa's run that season, even though it led to a co-big 10 championship and a jan 1 bowl.

    their so-called big wins, beating ohio st., purdue, and wisconsin, came at a time when each of those schools were struggling. those 3 teams losing to iowa was a start of a 3, 4, 5 game losing streak for those schools.

    then there's last year's 7-4 team last year that went to a jan 1 bowl game.

    am i the only one thinking that iowa's not the team that the media likes to hype? am i the only one that thinks ferentz isn't doing the great job that everyone thinks he's doing, and he's only going to impressive bowls because the big 10 has better buy-ins and because the conference keeps collapsing around them?

    sorry, i must be crazy
    forgot one other point -

    didn't ferentz have a #2 rated recruiting class a couple years ago? if the recruiting class and/or ferentz was that good, should they be having the struggles that they're having this year?


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