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    Re: Smoking ban at ISU

    Quote Originally Posted by mjlane View Post
    So it will increase the danger of secondhand smoke to someone who already is exposed to firsthand smoke? Does that mean it will just kill off smokers faster? Sounds good to me.
    Pathetic. People like you who view anyone who participates in different activiities than yourself as second class citizens are just pitiful. Lowest forms of life on Earth.

    Maybe alot of smokers won't live as long as you whiny people. But you waste your whole life whining and ******** about other people anyway, so I doubt you will get any extra enjoyment out of those last couple years.



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    Re: Smoking ban at ISU

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    If smelling smoke is enough to ruin your day you might be a little too sensitive and emotional.

    I am glad my days aren't spent on that kind of emotional roller coaster where the odor of smoke sends me into a spiral of despair which ruins my entire day. I'd hate to see how you would react if something bad or important actually happened.
    A pit of despair? I don't know about that. I can, however, tell you about many times that I was walking briskly along a sidewalk, enjoying the fresh air, when the person in front of me lit up. Every couple of steps I was getting a face full of smoke. As we were both walking the same quick pace, and (apparently) to the same destination, what was I supposed to do? Run to get ahead of them? Stand around until they're twenty feet ahead of me? Why should I be late just to accomodate them? I'm sorry, but being whacked in the face with second hand smoke does ruin the moment. And yes, it has happened far more than once.

    I'll also point out that I know several former smokers who tell me, after they've stopped for some time, that they never realized while smoking just how much cigarette smoke reeks.

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    Specious argument. The parallel would be someone saying they have a right to walk into a private smoking club and not to smell smoke.

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneIce View Post
    Pathetic. People like you who view anyone who participates in different activiities than yourself as second class citizens are just pitiful. Lowest forms of life on Earth.

    Maybe alot of smokers won't live as long as you whiny people. But you waste your whole life whining and ******** about other people anyway, so I doubt you will get any extra enjoyment out of those last couple years.
    Asinine argument. The original poster would point out that smokers know that their habit is killing them. This is "accepted risk", the choice to smoke despite the known hazards. The problem is that when they do die, the health care costs are passed along to the rest of us when their insurance inevitably is insufficient. The original poster seemed to me to be saying, "If smokers want to smoke themselves into extinction, the sooner the better". Not what I'd agree with, but at least it's honest.

    The solution? Stop ******** about your "right" to smoke, and stop smoking. Or never start. That's the whole point of the law in the first place.



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    Re: Smoking ban at ISU

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    FWIW he may have been under the limit, but he still made a bad decision for having any alcohol in him and driving 80+ on the interstate and not seeing a stalled vehicle.

    Regardless, I'm way more concerned about people's civil liberty of drinking in public areas like tailgates then I am with the smoking. I had several incidents with drunken idoits this last year.
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    Re: Smoking ban at ISU

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneIce View Post
    Pathetic. People like you who view anyone who participates in different activiities than yourself as second class citizens are just pitiful. Lowest forms of life on Earth.

    Maybe alot of smokers won't live as long as you whiny people. But you waste your whole life whining and ******** about other people anyway, so I doubt you will get any extra enjoyment out of those last couple years.
    Yes, you seem to be full of tolerance and love towards others. By the way, where was I whining about anything? I was just saying that if smokers want to kill themselves off 10-20 years ahead of nature, who am I to stand in their way? That's not whining, it's just wishful thinking.

    Excuse me if I don't feel sorry for someone who enjoys the pleasure of stained fingers, yellow teeth, horrible breath, stinking clothes, hacking cough, decreased lung capacity, cancer, emphysema, etc.

    Others I don't feel sorry for: alcoholics, drug addicts, porn addicts, adulterers. But you're right, these people are just choosing to participate in different activities from me. I guess I should respect what they do and embrace them as the diverse and wonderful people they are. Give me a break man.



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    Re: Smoking ban at ISU

    we need to have our cake, and eat it too. this nation was founded on doing one thing, and having a bunch of tree hugger pansies say another. don't you guys see-you all need each other.



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    Re: Smoking ban at ISU

    Where's the civility on this thread...."just wishful thinking"......I for one don't wish death upon others, especially for a legal activity.


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    Re: Smoking ban at ISU

    Quote Originally Posted by mjlane View Post
    I was just saying that if smokers want to kill themselves off 10-20 years ahead of nature, who am I to stand in their way? That's not whining, it's just wishful thinking.
    Actually wishing for people to die early because they smoke is pretty low class. Do you hope all of the obese people die early too?

    Seriously, your intolerance is what is wrong with this world. And yours is the worst kind...actually wishing death on people that do things you don't agree with.



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    Re: Smoking ban at ISU

    Quote Originally Posted by mjlane View Post
    Yes, you seem to be full of tolerance and love towards others. By the way, where was I whining about anything? I was just saying that if smokers want to kill themselves off 10-20 years ahead of nature, who am I to stand in their way? That's not whining, it's just wishful thinking.

    Excuse me if I don't feel sorry for someone who enjoys the pleasure of stained fingers, yellow teeth, horrible breath, stinking clothes, hacking cough, decreased lung capacity, cancer, emphysema, etc.

    Others I don't feel sorry for: alcoholics, drug addicts, porn addicts, adulterers. But you're right, these people are just choosing to participate in different activities from me. I guess I should respect what they do and embrace them as the diverse and wonderful people they are. Give me a break man.
    I may not be full of love and tolerance for others, but I am doing a helluva lot better than someone such as yourself who wishes death upon others. Sorry, but I think its pathetic to wish death upon others because you don't like smoking.

    Why would you feel sorry for alcoholics, drug users, porn addicts, or adulterers? I would imagine the vast majority in this group would feel sorry for you, as most of them are much, much kinder and better people than someone such as yourself who wishes death upon others who drink all the time or smoke or watch porn.

    I would respect any of the groups you hate so much over someone who actively wishes death upon others for engaging in any of the above activitities.



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    Re: Smoking ban at ISU

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone62 View Post
    Just a question though, does this law mean the Chica Shack has to close its doors? It's a bar purely for smoking flavored tobacco. I don't know any non-smoker that goes there for any reason, nor should they and then complain about the smoke in there.
    I believe tobacconists and private clubs are exempt. It wouldn't make sense for a smoke shop to be smoke free.


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    Specious argument. The parallel would be someone saying they have a right to walk into a private smoking club and not to smell smoke.

    How so? Seafood is served at many restaurants (not just seafood restaturants) and sold at every grocery store. Do I not have the right to go to grocery stores?



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    Re: Smoking ban at ISU

    mjlane-No one is asking you to feel sorry for anybody. Although I do think that taking joy in smoking deaths is a little disturbing. You got a lot of sealed off anger of somthing.


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    Re: Smoking ban at ISU

    As always, we remind everyone to keep the discussions respectful.


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    Re: Smoking ban at ISU

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneIce View Post
    I would respect any of the groups you hate so much over someone who actively wishes death upon others for engaging in any of the above activitities.
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    As always, we remind everyone to keep the discussions respectful.
    Is hoping people will buy because they smoke respectful?



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    Re: Smoking ban at ISU

    They probably wouldn't have included as many outdoor areas if the majority of smokers didn't just chuck their butts wherever they please... I don't think people realize that they don't just go away...



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