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    Pretty Strong JP Quote RE: Mac

    "I believe he has all the qualities and characteristics we need in order to take the next step," Pollard said Monday. "But taking it and thinking someone can take it are two different things.


    See the full article below....

    http://gazetteonline.com/2006/10/24/...temccarney.htm



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    Re: Pretty Strong JP Quote RE: Mac

    Quote Originally Posted by JCloned View Post
    "I believe he has all the qualities and characteristics we need in order to take the next step," Pollard said Monday. "But taking it and thinking someone can take it are two different things.


    See the full article below....

    http://gazetteonline.com/2006/10/24/...temccarney.htm
    Quite a different stance than 3-4 weeks ago when Jamie was backing Dan all the way. I think JP is expecting multiple wins in the upcoming weeks.



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    Re: Pretty Strong JP Quote RE: Mac

    "The Cyclone fans, I hope they can bear with us, stick with us through the good times and the bad."

    Pollard"But there's still four games to be played."

    Good luck with the fans.



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    Re: Pretty Strong JP Quote RE: Mac

    I think JP is expecting multiple wins in the upcoming weeks.
    I for one certainly HOPE JP is expecting multiple wins in the coming weeks. If we go into games without the expectation to win I think we've lost.



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    Re: Pretty Strong JP Quote RE: Mac

    This quote is pretty telling...
    "For us to get where we need to get to, we don't need them to win the Big 12 championship, but we need to be in a position where we can continue to sell hope, and we've got to take care of that down the stretch."
    (My emphasis)

    And Bowen's quote is starting to sound like a broken record...
    "Coach Mac has done a lot for Iowa State, what five bowl games (in six years)?" Bowen said. "Coach Mac has done a lot that Iowa State has never done before. Coach Mac has taken Iowa State where it hasn't been.

    "The Cyclone fans, I hope they can bear with us, stick with us through the good times and the bad."

    While I won't argue with his sentiment, it begs the question (so eloquently asked by Janet Jackson), "What have you done for me lately?"

    Like I've said before, I'm not entirely on the "Fire Mac" bandwagon, but I'm not sure this team "has hope to sell" the rest of this season...



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    Re: Pretty Strong JP Quote RE: Mac

    I really hope Mac can prove us all wrong and get it done in the last 4 games. Hopefully JP can get in there and clear out whatever the issues are...wether its finding asstitants who can recruit and getting kids to stay or whatever.

    There is no one I would rather have take us to the next level than mac....the question is wether at this point it can be done with him at the lead. JP's quote is exactly right in my eyes.



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    Re: Pretty Strong JP Quote RE: Mac

    I think he is expecting multiple wins. I think maybe that was a little wake up call for the team from Jamie. I still think odds are better than average that he will keep Mac. The players are really starting to notice and stand up for their coach. Doesn't sound like a divided locker room as some have hinted. Hopefully that will light a fire under the team.



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    Re: Pretty Strong JP Quote RE: Mac

    My sense from people I talk to are three camps of fans.

    Fans who are so convinced that Mac must go that they will prefer any fate including 3-9 to ensure it happens. I really think this is a very vocal, but very small in number group.

    Fans who have lost/are losing confidence that Dan is the man for ISU. They really want it to work, really want ISU to win out, but are losing hope. Seems to be the largest group of fans.

    Fans who believe in Mac and expect to finish strong, but even if we go 3-9 they believe Mac is the right man for the long term at ISU. Larger than the Mac must go crowd, but pretty quite for the most part.


    Added fourth camp per timc243

    Fans who believe any discussion of coaching change is premature. Plenty of time to evaluate at end of year. Until then lets rally an cheer on the team. My sense is this is 2nd smallest camp.


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    Re: Pretty Strong JP Quote RE: Mac

    By the way I am in the 2nd camp if you haven't noticed....had lived in third camp for a long time.



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    Re: Pretty Strong JP Quote RE: Mac

    You forgot my group that doesn't want to hear about it until 4 games from now, but I think that group is growing smaller. Otherwise pretty accurate.



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    Re: Pretty Strong JP Quote RE: Mac

    You can add me to camp #2.

    maybe you should create a poll with the 3 camps listed



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    Re: Pretty Strong JP Quote RE: Mac

    Another one here for camp #2.

    Does any coaching change (Head Coach or Assistant Coach) satisfy the ability to sell hope? Personally, I think it does... and if camp #1 is as small as JCloned thinks, maybe a new Offensive Coordinater or O-line coach is all it will take to keep season tickets up and the overall department moving in the right direction.



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    Re: Pretty Strong JP Quote RE: Mac

    I would prefer 3-9 and Mac fired to 6-6 or 5-7 and keeping Mac. I believe Mac is a poor football coach and I think it would be in the best interest of the program long-term to get rid of him. Of couse, I wouldn't scoff at a winning season if Mac managed to win out, and I wouldn't expect him to be fired in that case, but he has a long road to hoe for me to be a believer in his coaching ability relative to his peers.



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    Re: Pretty Strong JP Quote RE: Mac

    Here is a thought: How many of our opponents are hoping that we keep Dan as head coach? I'll bet every single one of them has there arms stretched in the air like its their job!

    If I'm an opponent of ISU I'm sorry, but Dan's coaching doesn't scare me much. Kind of like my theory with Alford where I hope he gets a lifetime contract there.



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    Re: Pretty Strong JP Quote RE: Mac

    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoClone View Post
    Another one here for camp #2.

    Does any coaching change (Head Coach or Assistant Coach) satisfy the ability to sell hope?
    Definitely! Look at how excited Cyclone Nation is with the hiring of GMac. I'm convinced that the upcoming MBB season wouldn't be as filled with this much anticipation if Morgan were still on board...



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