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    Chris Brown

    I just watched the "WR's vs. DB's" drill on Cyclones.com, and Chris Brown made a great tackle in it. I watched the replay of the KSU game on 22 yesterday and he had numerous great tackles in open space. I know he's really undersized but does anybody else hope that he will continue to get time next year? I just love the way he wraps up and brings guys down, especially that totally amazing hit he put on Young in the Iowa game to stuff him and force the punt.

    I just think he shows a lot of heart out there and I'm a big fan.




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    Re: Chris Brown

    I also love how Chris Brown is just blowin' up the hip-hop/R&B scene...



    Seriously I am a fan too, hope he becomes a star for us this year.



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    Re: Chris Brown

    Hasn't it always been an issue of coverage with him? He was huge in the Iowa game.



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    Re: Chris Brown

    He doesnt need to cover too great when since he was playing safety most of the year.


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    Re: Chris Brown

    He was great when he was at Colorado. i wasn't aware he was playing on the other side of the ball now.



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    Re: Chris Brown

    Brown is one of my favorite players. He is undersized but plays with reckless abandonment. He doesn't care about getting hurt, he just wants to hit someone. He made big plays and big hits at safety all year that were largely unnoticed.

    With Brown, Smith, Bell, and Singleton we have a very solid group of DB's. These guys have taken more crap than they deserve mostly because we haven't had the DL to put pressure on the QB. That will be the issue again this year.


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    Re: Chris Brown

    I liked Chris Brown, and was impressed with his tackling and how he attacked the ball. Sure, he's undersized, but the returning safeties don't offer a lot of competition. He's a senior, and I'm sure he'll be starting.

    I'm also pretty sure that safety will be a recruiting priority for '09.



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    Re: Chris Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by ripvdub View Post
    He doesnt need to cover too great when since he was playing safety most of the year.
    Safeties don't have to cover people? Since when? Are you our secondaries coach? B/c that would make a lot of sense on why our pass coverage was so bad last year



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    Re: Chris Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by Clones85' View Post
    Safeties don't have to cover people? Since when? Are you our secondaries coach? B/c that would make a lot of sense on why our pass coverage was so bad last year
    Oddly enough, in a Tampa-2, safeties spend more time in run support than man-to-man pass coverage. Oh wait, even the corners are in a zone, aren't they?

    The problem with defending the passing game was more due to the lack of a pass rush than poor coverage.



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    Re: Chris Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by Aclone View Post
    I liked Chris Brown, and was impressed with his tackling and how he attacked the ball. Sure, he's undersized, but the returning safeties don't offer a lot of competition. He's a senior, and I'm sure he'll be starting.

    I'm also pretty sure that safety will be a recruiting priority for '09.
    Safety will be a priority but defensive line will be the main priority.

    I would rate the priorities as such:
    DL
    LB
    S
    WR
    CB
    OL
    TE
    QB
    RB



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    Re: Chris Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by Aclone View Post
    Oddly enough, in a Tampa-2, safeties spend more time in run support than man-to-man pass coverage. Oh wait, even the corners are in a zone, aren't they?

    The problem with defending the passing game was more due to the lack of a pass rush than poor coverage.
    Couldn't agree more. Our pass rush killed us.

    Safeties need to cover no matter what kind of defense a coach runs. James Smith got burned multiple times last year and it cost us touchdowns.



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    Re: Chris Brown

    He does hit hard and with more experence cound do well in coverage. In a cover 2 I dont think he is suppose to cover one on one a lot.


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    Re: Chris Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by Aclone View Post
    Oddly enough, in a Tampa-2, safeties spend more time in run support than man-to-man pass coverage. Oh wait, even the corners are in a zone, aren't they?

    The problem with defending the passing game was more due to the lack of a pass rush than poor coverage.
    Aclone agree and disagree.....

    I thought our pass rush was extremely weak, might explain why the coaches focused on pass rushers early and after having some quality guys committed, they went elsewhere too bad...especially marshall....he will be a player at KU....

    But, from watching the games multiple times, one thing continues to blow my mind. In a Tampa 2 defense, one of the signatures of this is to have multiple blitz schemes that rely on the corners either being in zone or in your face bump and run. I may get some neg. reaction to this, but, our opponents wr seemed to be running open all the time, not as if it were a blown assignment, but rather simply not good coverage. I agree i do not see our pass rush improving this year, and if our coverage is anything compared to last year, it will once again be a long year for our defense. This is one where i hope i'm 100% wrong.

    The only thing i can hope for is, that now that our returning players know what to do, and what to expect, how the defense works that our secondary can be a bit more aggressive. I think throwing Banks in (If its ever official he's a cyclone) as a third db or even pushing singleton for starting time, will drive us for improvement. Throw in the mix Benton and Johnson, i would love to redshirt these two guys so we have them for 4 years of quality play, but, they may be needed in a secondary that seemed to not be able to cover.

    One other note on our corners, these guys need to get stronger. Watching the KU game, we saw what quality db's can do both in pass coverage but also in run support. More then a few times i saw our db's engaged and never disengage, thus the rb simply ran by them as they made a weak attempt at a tackle. In reverse, our wr would engage and KU's db would remain engaged until they wanted to shed the blocker and smack either Bass or Robinson. DB's a such a vital part of the tampa 2, we hope our's can overachieve or simply become more aggressive and if we get burnt from time to time, i will take that. But, allowing every team we face to convert like 75% of the third downs was gut wrenching!!!!!!

    At least i think our offense this year will be FAR better then last years. I think bates and AA will lead the team because of consistency. Our RB's may be the best in the big 12 as a tandem and our WR imo will be a huge sleeper this year. Hamilton will rise and i think between Franklin, Carlson, Johnson, Jones one of these guys may push sumrall into a third receiver position.

    Things are looking up, offense is growing and i think our coaches are going to focus on the front 7 for the defense for next years recruiting class and hopefully with 6-7 wins, we can retain a couple of the stud DE that we get in with rather then having them commit to a basketball school!!!!!



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