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    Basketball assist question

    My daughter plays in an All-Star basketball game this Sunday. I looked up all the stats for the girls on her team and the opposing team. The opposing team has a member (I think she won Miss Iowa) that had 230 assists for this year. That seemed like a lot to me so I did some investigating (I don't have much of a life).

    I noticed that this player's team's stats (on the Iowa Girls Athletic Union page) listed more assists then field goals in 4 games this year. I also noticed that on 3 other occasions this player had more assists then other players on her team had field goals.

    Is this possible , or are these stats padded?



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    Re: Basketball assist question

    From Wikipedia:
    Assist (basketball - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

    In basketball, an assist is attributed to a player who passes the ball to a teammate in a way that leads to a score by field goal, meaning that he or she was "assisting" in the basket. This person is known as the "assistor."
    It is impossible to have more assists than FG's in a game.



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    Re: Basketball assist question

    Well, I do know you can't have more assists than field goals...



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    Re: Basketball assist question

    Could this maybe be attributed to her dad being the coach, AD, and Superintendant?



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    Re: Basketball assist question

    It is impossible to have more assists than made baskets.

    My guess would be that they use the "Myth" that if you make one free throw after being fouled, you can credit someone with an assists. This is not true.


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    Re: Basketball assist question

    Maybe it is because she is Miss Iowa and is really hot so they padded her stats a little more.



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    Re: Basketball assist question

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneryan View Post
    Maybe it is because she is Miss Iowa and is really hot so they padded her stats a little more.
    UHHH...The Miss Iowa was in basketball. This makes me wonder if this player's stats were correct in any catagory. She also surpassed Anne O'Neil in scoring for a career.



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    Re: Basketball assist question

    High school stats are often taken by high schoolers ... some coaches care a lot and get an educated adult to take them or do it via video tape later, but most really don't give a rip about keeping stats and just get some freshman or 'team manager' to do it leading to stats that must be taken with a grain of salt.



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    Re: Basketball assist question

    Shenanigans!


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    Re: Basketball assist question

    Well think about it, to get an assist someone must make a pass to someone that leads to a basket. So therefore there must be less assist than field goals. Because not every bucket came from an assist.



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    Re: Basketball assist question

    It's theoretically possible to have an equal number of assists and FG's, but in reality that would never happen.


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    Another assist question

    I know there can not be more assists in a game then FGs, but I have heard different views on what qualifies for an assist. Once the receiving player catches the ball can they take one dribble and then shoot?



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    Re: Another assist question

    Quote Originally Posted by ISU_REV View Post
    I know there can not be more assists in a game then FGs, but I have heard different views on what qualifies for an assist. Once the receiving player catches the ball can they take one dribble and then shoot?
    Yes. I think the idea is that the pass has to be a key in leading to the score. In the end it's up to the judgement of the person doing the scorekeeping, but that assumes that the person keeping stats knows what they're doing.

    I think the NCAA even goes as far to say that the pass that gets the assist doesn't even need to be the last pass made. I don't know how often that happens, but still.

    http://www.ncaa.org/library/statisti...ats_manual.pdf


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    Re: Basketball assist question

    it's usually 2 dribbles or less for an assist



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    Re: Basketball assist question

    Quote Originally Posted by BD4CY View Post
    it's usually 2 dribbles or less for an assist
    usually being the key term ... the stats manual posted a couple posts ago is an interesting read.

    basically an assist is a pass that enables the shooter an easier shot than they could have had without the pass (provided the shot goes down) ... but a lot is up to the judgement of the statistician.



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