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    Overhyped Favre

    Great ESPN article on how Favre was give a free pass by fans.

    "Favre was among the best in the game, once upon a time. Those days are long gone. Only the idolatry remains."


    ESPN - Overhyped: Favre didn't deliver in second half of career - NFL



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    Re: Overhyped Favre

    You and the writer at ESPN will probably get struck by lightning pretty soon. Good luck to you. Don't ever take the name Favre in Vain.



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    Re: Overhyped Favre

    Great article. The facts are there. Now let the cheese-heads implode.



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    Re: Overhyped Favre

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing View Post
    You and the writer at ESPN will probably get struck by lightning pretty soon. Good luck to you. Don't ever take the name Favre in Vain.
    That writer should have known better than to use logic and statistics with Packer fans. For the rest of us...it just confirms the obvious...


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    Re: Overhyped Favre

    Quote Originally Posted by zumbro clones View Post
    Great ESPN article on how Favre was give a free pass by fans.

    "Favre was among the best in the game, once upon a time. Those days are long gone. Only the idolatry remains."


    ESPN - Overhyped: Favre didn't deliver in second half of career - NFL
    Agreed ... but we'll just be called jealous.


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    Re: Overhyped Favre

    Favre got a pass on many things. The biggest being his addiction to drugs. If TO or Moss went through that, they would have been crucified in the media. Not Favre though, quite the opposite...he was looked at as a hero for overcoming his problems.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    Favre got a pass on many things. The biggest being his addiction to drugs. If TO or Moss went through that, they would have been crucified in the media. Not Favre though, quite the opposite...he was looked at as a hero for overcoming his problems.
    You mean like this from the other Favre thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by jtd9046 View Post
    Nobody forgets that... and jealous fans are quick to remind. I actually admire him more for battling that addiction and coming out ahead. You don't hear about too many professional athletes who have battled addictions righting themselves. Anyone, athlete or not should be commended for confronting their own problems.


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    Re: Overhyped Favre

    Favre got a pass on the drug's because he was the one that addmitted the problem. It's not like he got caught doing anything at all. He simply admitted that he needed help and got help. Nothing more to the story.



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    Re: Overhyped Favre

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneAggie View Post
    You mean like this from the other Favre thread...
    Exactly.

    I'm glad that Favre is one of the better guys in football but that doesn't mean he should get a pass for everything.



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    Re: Overhyped Favre

    Could it be that people are more willing to give Favre the benefit of the doubt than say, T.O., because Favre's not a d-bag?! The fact that he's a great person and a great player is behind the public's attitude toward him.



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    Re: Overhyped Favre

    Quote Originally Posted by Knownothing View Post
    Favre got a pass on the drug's because he was the one that addmitted the problem. It's not like he got caught doing anything at all. He simply admitted that he needed help and got help. Nothing more to the story.
    Really ... maybe you should read this. Here's a portion...

    In February 1996, Favre flew to Green Bay to have bone chips removed from his left ankle. After surgery, he was sitting up in his hospital bed, talking to Deanna, when he suffered a seizure. His eyes rolled back in his head, his arms and legs thrashed and his body stiffened. Brittany, who was in the room, asked Deanna, "Is he going to die, Mommy?"
    The cause of the seizure was debatable, but the fact is seizures are one possible side effect of Vicodin. It was a wake-up call for Favre, who agreed to meet with NFL-appointed doctors at the urging of the Packers' medical personnel.
    According to Favre's a****iography, the meeting took place in Chicago in March 1996. The league doctors asked him a lot of questions about his alcohol use. Finally, one of them said, "We know you're addicted to painkillers and we think you have a drinking problem, too."
    They suggested Favre seek treatment at the Menninger Clinic in Topeka, Kan. He got up and walked out of the room.
    The NFL doctors kept calling. Favre kept ignoring them. Finally, a league doctor called and said Favre had been classified as behavioral-referred instead of self-referred because the Packers' team doctors had contacted the NFL about his addiction to painkillers.
    Now, Favre had no choice. He had to report to the Menninger Clinic or he would be fined four weeks' pay, or about $900,000.


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    Re: Overhyped Favre

    True, I think he's a a little idolized.

    I'd rather have him starting for my team than Brodie Croyle next year though.




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    Re: Overhyped Favre

    I think the article was a bit over the top as far as overrated goes. Yeah he had some picks at crucial times and tried to force some things, but that also made him good. (note I am not a Packers fan) Those late picks were a result of being in close games which probably shouldn't have been close in the first place, i.e. he didn't always have a lot of help. The 2nd half of his career, the Pack weren't any good and playoff losses can't rest totally on his shoulders. Look at Dan Marino, what did he do? I just think its too much of a generalization.

    As far as having a drug/alcohol problem, how many people actually admit it on their own? I'm guessing its usually the people around them. So what if they made him enter rehab, even if he realized he had a problem after he went there. Timing isn't a big issue.



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    Re: Overhyped Favre

    how couldn't he be one of the greatest. He broke just about every passing record



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    Re: Overhyped Favre

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUAlum05 View Post
    Could it be that people are more willing to give Favre the benefit of the doubt than say, T.O., because Favre's not a d-bag?! The fact that he's a great person and a great player is behind the public's attitude toward him.
    The d-bag thing is up for debate. The way he held the Packers hostage the past few offseaons by not announcing his intentions--that isn't the act of a "great" player or person. That effects how they draft, how they deal with free agency, etc. Also, the comments he made about not mentoring Aaron Rodgers...well, maybe it wasn't his job, and maybe he was right---but you can't make those whiny comments after they draft your future replacement and still be called a "great person"...at least not in my book. Great QB? Yeah, for a long time. But not "great person".



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