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    Model Plane for Dad's Day

    I decided for Father's Day that I'm going to construct model of my dad's squadron from his time in Germany.

    It's been over 15 years since I did my last model. I'm not worried about the construction except for the paint job.

    Here are the two issues that I'm struggling with in my mind:

    1.) The squadron had a specified decal that I've got jpg's of, but the kit obviously didn't come with it. How in heck do I reproduce them and get them to stay on?

    2.) It has camouflage on the top, and blue underbelly. I know how to paint a house, but how do I apply that to a model that can fit in my arms and use spray paint effectively?

    Essentially, anyone know of a good resource for good paint jobs on models.

    Thanks for your help. It's much appreciated.



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    Re: Model Plane for Dad's Day

    There is a place on 86th Street in Des Moines called Hobby Haven. HUGE hobby shop with just about everything under the sun and a bunch of experts working there. I would go in there and I am sure they would be able to help you get that done.



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    Re: Model Plane for Dad's Day

    I can't help you with the painting...but I wanted to say that is a fantastic fathers day gift and I bet he will be overjoyed to receive it. Especially the time and thought that goes into it!!


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    Re: Model Plane for Dad's Day

    The computer printer is your friend. You can get decal paper from a well-stocked hobby shop, on-line, or if you're really cheap, just use part of the paper the model came with, and print an on-line copy of the thing you want to apply on the decal paper.

    You need a good airbrush, and a plan for what order you want to spray paint. Put one layer of base, generally the most prominent color, and cut out a different stencil for each color. You don't have to tape the stencil on the airplane, you can hold it against the spot you want that color/design on. Make sure you put multiple layers of light coats, and hold the spray gun at a constant distance, and don't stop in one spot.

    Practice on a piece of paper, first, until you can get a good camo design.

    Otherwise, do a Google search on painting military models and they can give you plenty of tips. That interweb thingy can be a lot of help with something like this.


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    Re: Model Plane for Dad's Day

    Quote Originally Posted by cys_av8r View Post
    There is a place on 86th Street in Des Moines called Hobby Haven. HUGE hobby shop with just about everything under the sun and a bunch of experts working there. I would go in there and I am sure they would be able to help you get that done.
    At Hobby Haven ask for Tom Weidner.

    There is also Great Hobby Adventures on EP True on the North side between 35th (VW Drive) and 50th. Greg or Don would be able to help you.

    You can print the decal onto decal paper. An easy way yo get it to stick is to spray it w/ Testor's Dullcoate. It gives it a roughness that the decal will stick to. Once you done that and it's dried, go back w/ Testor's Glosscoate. This will take the edges of the decal away and make it harder for them do be seen. There are also products that "dissolve" the paper the decals come on and make it look more like it was painted. Those are great, but once you put that stuff on you'd better not touch it until it's dry. If you do then your decal is shot.


    Airbrushing is going to be the way to go. If you have to mix the paint then that will be your only choice. If not, depending on the scheme, lots and lots of masking. Make sure it's dry before doing the next step.


    What's the kit and unit?



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    Re: Model Plane for Dad's Day

    I have no input.

    But wanted to tell you - wow - that's damn cool what you're doing. Please take and post some photos when it's all done!



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    Re: Model Plane for Dad's Day

    I have no idea if this site would be useful for your purpose but it has some very cool (very inexpensive as well) aircraft models...always updating their inventory as well...I have had positive experiences with this site:

    Flight Miniatures Collectible Model Aircraft


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    Re: Model Plane for Dad's Day

    Thanks for your help guys. I appreciate it!

    I found the model in a small hobby store in Ames amazingly with a bunch of German decals, but not exactly the right squadron. I hadn't see one for decades.

    Attached below is what I'm shooting for if interested.
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    Re: Model Plane for Dad's Day

    Now that's just an awesome picture... Where's the castle located at?


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    Re: Model Plane for Dad's Day

    Ahhhhhh, the F-104 Starfighter. The pilots used to have to wear stirrups, that were intended to keep them in their seats under negative "G"s. The leading and trailing edge were so sharp (and right at eye level for most folks) that they came with rubber bumpers that were installed upon parking, so folks would give themselves pre-frontal lobotomies by walking into them.

    I am almost positive that that exact decal set is available *somewhere* on the internet.

    That appears to be one of the "Ludwig the Mad" castles. Would Neuschwanstein be a bad guess?


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    Re: Model Plane for Dad's Day

    A great place to look for is Vet Groups.

    I did an RF-4C Phantom II for my dad. I couldn't find a replica of his patch for the base. I found the Tan Son Nhut Air Force Base veterans group on line. I logged on, asked one question and within an hour they had contacted a few different people within their group. Once they found the right guy, he pointed me in the right direction and gave me a direct link.

    They are very helpful and probably nicer than most people you will meet.



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    Re: Model Plane for Dad's Day

    This is what I did for my dad. I don't have any pictures of the exact one that I did. I just love the look of the Phantom II.



    Another thing that the vet groups might help out on is the markings. I was able to find tail numbers that would have corresponded with some about the same time my dad was stationed over there.



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    Re: Model Plane for Dad's Day

    I'm not sure what castle that is in the background. I'll have to do some research.

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    Another thing that the vet groups might help out on is the markings. I was able to find tail numbers that would have corresponded with some about the same time my dad was stationed over there.
    I'll have to track down the vets as you suggest. There's gotta be something out there.

    I remember my dad telling me the F-4's made ever other plane sound quiet on base. Good plane though, long service, and extreme amounts of power.



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    Re: Model Plane for Dad's Day

    Quote Originally Posted by clintr View Post
    I'm not sure what castle that is in the background. I'll have to do some research.



    I'll have to track down the vets as you suggest. There's gotta be something out there.

    I remember my dad telling me the F-4's made ever other plane sound quiet on base. Good plane though, long service, and extreme amounts of power.
    My dad's barracks weren't to far from a hangar that was heavily guarded. According to him, you couldn't get clsoe to that part of the base.

    Night time would come around and you'd hear this unbelievable noise. Nobdy was sure what it was.

    Turns out, it was this.




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    Re: Model Plane for Dad's Day

    To be honest, I don't think I'd ever want to hear that. Well, at least not on the receiving end.



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