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    So will the IU investigation slap both KS wrists?

    I have always wondered why the NCAA gathers all the information for an investigation and then lets the violating school investigate and recommend the punishment. I look for IU to recommend some recruiting restrictions for Sampson and a couple of other fluffy penalties that they can work around. Nothing like taking away scholarships or not participating in the NCAA tourney. Also look for the NCAA to completely agree, since we all know the NCAA rules don't really apply to the chosen few of college athletics.

    As far as I am concerned IU and the NCAA are as much at fault as KS. After all both IU and the NCAA knew Sampson was a big time cheater at OU. When IU hired him, well I couldn't believe they did it. Even SA looked like a better choice to me. And what ever happened to all of those violations KS committed at OU? Maybe I missed something, but I don't remember anything happening to OU or Sampson. There goes that NCAA golden rule: Make it look like you are a ruling body but don't penalize schools that make us money!



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    Re: So will the IU investigation slap both KS wrists?

    KS is good as gone. Even the IU folks want him removed....not many are defending him and they are PO'd it is a scar to their program.

    It is just a matter of when, not if.



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    Re: So will the IU investigation slap both KS wrists?

    IU should be punished, they knew of his past. I think any school that hires a dirty coach should be punished when the coach messes up again.


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    Re: So will the IU investigation slap both KS wrists?

    I doubt anything happends. Remember Brand is a IU Alum.


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    Re: So will the IU investigation slap both KS wrists?

    He's definitely gone Indiana has a squeaky clean NCAA compliance record, something they're very proud of in Bloomington. This is eating alive the alumni of the school.

    I don't think there's any way the program is going to get off easy. This team won't get punished, but i'm certain they'll forfeit next year's NCAA tourney eligibility. They've already lost one scholarship for this year, due to the previous KS issue. I think they'll lose more.

    My guess: 3 scholarship loss, and 2 year suspension from NCAA post-season tourney.



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    Re: So will the IU investigation slap both KS wrists?

    Will Greenspan will get fired at the same time KS does?


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    Re: So will the IU investigation slap both KS wrists?

    I think Sampson is good as gone, IU just wants to salvage what they can and hope to not have to buy him out and not take on as many sanctions in the process too.


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    Re: So will the IU investigation slap both KS wrists?

    "As president, I believe the most important measure of our success in intercollegiate athletics is not to be found in the win-loss columns," McRobbie said. "Rather, it is in how well we measure up to our own high standards for good sportsmanship, academic success, the welfare of our student-athletes and playing by the rules."
    So we fired Mike Davis, who was doing a good job and running a clean program to hire a guy with a great winning percentage and a very shady past. Gee, looks consistant to me.

    I still say that whatever happens to IU, it will be aslap of the wrist compared to what the NCAA would do the ISU with the exact same situation.



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    Re: So will the IU investigation slap both KS wrists?

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCloned View Post
    I still say that whatever happens to IU, it will be aslap of the wrist compared to what the NCAA would do the ISU with the exact same situation.
    This is 100% true, but I think/hope IU gets the book thrown at them. The worst is that Indiana knew what kind of coach they were getting when they hired this bum, so they should be reaping all the "rewards" and get a 1-2 year post season ban PLUS schollies removed, IMHO



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    Re: So will the IU investigation slap both KS wrists?

    I have no issue with IU trying to get all the info to throw the book at KS and not have to pay out his contract. He was given an opportunity on a very short leash and blew it. IU shouldn't have to pay him out.
    That being said, the NCAA should throw the book at IU as far as penalities, lost schollies, post season bans, etc. To the fullest extent. This is like a big company hiring an Enron crook right after he was convicted of lying about all the financial fraud. The company/college hiring a known cheater needs to bear the responsibility of his actions. If IU is so proud of their history of no NCAA violations, they shouldn't have taken the chance in hiring him.
    If the NCAA is serious about cleaning things up they need to make an example of IU for hiring someone like KS.


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    Re: So will the IU investigation slap both KS wrists?

    IU will be careful in how they handle this. Ohio State lost a lawsuit to Coach O'Brien after they fired him before the NCAA investigation was completed.


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    Re: So will the IU investigation slap both KS wrists?

    I think we all agree KS will be gone....big question is what will happen to IU?



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    Re: So will the IU investigation slap both KS wrists?

    How can the NCAA administer the hinterlands when they do not mind the mint in their backyard at IU? Their empire will be Roman like.


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    Re: So will the IU investigation slap both KS wrists?

    I really have to tip my cap to IU - their fanbase is really handling this with the utmost of class and high standards.




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