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    Why stars don't mean anything

    So, yesterday before the battle heated up, Sedrick Johnson was a 4 star recruit, 6-4/180, and I thought I remember his posted speed was 4.46.

    Today, after the battle is over, he is a 3-star recruit, 6-3.5, 196 and his speed is listed at 4.6.

    Poor kid, just because he choose the "lowly" cyclones, he is shorter, slower, and has lost a star. If I were him, I would put this up in my locker and use every day to prove that he is worth the 4-stars that they originally gave him.

    PS: I found older article that claimed a 4.6 speed so that may be inaccurate. However, every article until today had him as a 4-star recruit.


    Last edited by agcy68; 02-07-2008 at 07:59 PM.

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    Re: Why stars don't mean anything

    At thies point it doesnt matter. He is now a Clone and what matters is what he does on the field. Stars, class ranking I have heard enough of that, we will see how this class works out in 2 to 4 years. You can put all kinds of stars behind a guys name but unless he has coaching and motivation it really doesnt matter. Sometimes 3 star kids are better, they have had to work at least a little to get where they are, and know they have to work hard to get better.


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    Re: Why stars don't mean anything

    No doubt, but it just shines a little light on what the stars mean. I fully agree that it isn't the number of stars that a kid has but their work ethic and on field attitude. Even so, it is still a lot easier to get excited about more stars than less.

    Again, just goes to show how much credibility the ratings of the experts really means.



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    Re: Why stars don't mean anything

    Stars do mean something, but not with individual players. It is a good way to distinguish the best classes, but there will still be some surprises.



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    Re: Why stars don't mean anything

    Pretty sure he's still a 4-star. Unless CR is simply ******* with us.



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    Re: Why stars don't mean anything

    He was always a 3 star on Scout and a 4 star on Rivals. None of the measurements are official so they may vary by source.



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    Re: Why stars don't mean anything

    He looks like a great person to me. Hard worker. Ennis comes to mind. If may play harder than a five star.


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    Re: Why stars don't mean anything

    Actually, I was looking at Scout which had him as a 4 star before he signed with Iowa State.



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    Re: Why stars don't mean anything

    As Jon Miller said yesterday, they are listed 4/5 stars when the are a commit for Notre Dame or Alabama, but if they are an ISU/Iowa commit they are a 3 star player at best. I have a great feeling about this recruiting class-lots of speed.



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    Re: Why stars don't mean anything

    Quote Originally Posted by agcy68 View Post
    Actually, I was looking at Scout which had him as a 4 star before he signed with Iowa State.
    You're definitely wrong on this. I remember looking at his profiles on both Scout and Rivals, and one had him as a 3-star and the other as a 4-star WR.



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    Re: Why stars don't mean anything

    Quote Originally Posted by bkurt58 View Post
    You're definitely wrong on this. I remember looking at his profiles on both Scout and Rivals, and one had him as a 3-star and the other as a 4-star WR.
    you sir, would be correct.



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    Re: Why stars don't mean anything

    I was reading about how they judge four stars and three stars and they said most of the 3 stars could be four stars and the two stars could be three stars. They just cannot have over half the class being 4 star recruits. They are kind of grading these rankings on a curve. 10- five star players, 50-four star players, and so on.

    I also read how to build a national championship with 3-star players and Jerimiah Schwarts was on that list at full back. He is only listed at a 2-star on some sites and a 3 on others. So i totally agree with you that stars dont mean everything.



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    Re: Why stars don't mean anything

    Now the Star-bellied Sneetches had bellies with stars.
    The Plain-bellied Sneetches had none upon thars.
    The stars weren't so big; they were really quite small.
    You would think such a thing wouldn't matter at all.
    But because they had stars, all the Star-bellied Sneetches
    would brag, "We're the best kind of Sneetch on the beaches."

    With their snoots in the air, they would sniff and they'd snort, "
    We'll have nothing to do with the plain-bellied sort."
    And whenever they met some, when they were out walking,
    they'd hike right on past them without even talking.

    When the Star-bellied children went out to play ball,
    could the Plain-bellies join in their game? Not at all!
    You could only play ball if your bellies had stars,
    and the Plain-bellied children had none upon thars.



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    Re: Why stars don't mean anything

    NFL teams spend millions of dollars evaluating talent and they still get stuck with lame draft picks who don't pan out. Most probably don't as a matter of fact. It would be interesting to see how 1st rounders have turned out through their career. You get stars for being big and/or fast and that's about it. In the college game you certainly can win games if you accumulate plenty of these players, but it doesn't mean the 2-3 stars can't turn out to be better football players than the raw athletes. From what I saw last year, I'm confident our staff can "coach them up".



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    Re: Why stars don't mean anything

    If stars were worth anything, Notre Dame would be a top 10 team every year.



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