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    Rivers had surgery prior to AFC Champ game

    I read a lot of negative opinions of Rivers on here last week. Does this change any of those?

    ESPN - Chargers' Rivers will need second surgery on ailing knee - NFL

    If this was Favre, Brady, or Manning this would have been a enormous story.



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    Re: Rivers had surgery prior to AFC Champ game

    I suspected something like this happened.

    I felt Rivers played a pretty decent game yesterday and certainly showed guts/toughness by being out there with a bum knee - still running around and giving his team a chance to win.

    I'm not a huge fan of his trash-talking - but the guys on the team have a ton of respect for him and this will only increase that. As long as Norv doesn't coach this team into the ground, they'll be right back in it next fall.



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    Re: Rivers had surgery prior to AFC Champ game

    It doesn't change the fact that he is an *******.

    He obviously is a gamer, and he could be respected for that... But after trash talking fans he is a jerk in my book.



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    Re: Rivers had surgery prior to AFC Champ game

    It's funny how some are called out as "trash talkers" while others are just called "competitive."

    Brett Favre, throughout his career has talked more smack than almost anyone in the league. How many times do you see him get in the face of opposing defenders between plays? Happens all the time. But is he a trash talker? Nope. That's just Favre being competitive. It's never portrayed in a negative light.

    I'm not saying that Favre is worse than Rivers, or vice versa. I'm just saying that a double standard exists.


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    Re: Rivers had surgery prior to AFC Champ game

    A person can still be couragous and an A-hole at the same time.


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    Re: Rivers had surgery prior to AFC Champ game

    His trash talking annoys the hell out of me. Atleast Tom Brady has accomplished something when he talks trash, although I hate him as well. What has Phillip Rivers every accomplished? Nothing, he needs to stop jawing at every fan that calls his a sissy.


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    Re: Rivers had surgery prior to AFC Champ game

    I don't think I've ever, once, seen Favre taunt any fans.

    I don't think many take too much of an issue with him laying it on players from the other team (although he did take some flack for going out of his way to jaw with a player from the sidelines).

    But taunting the fans in the stands is a little too much.



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    Re: Rivers had surgery prior to AFC Champ game

    I don't get why people get so mad about players trash talking the fans. What gives the fan the right to trash talk the player's? Like it or not, it's part of the game these days. Reggie and Spike Lee for example. You don't think Stinson ever talked trash while walking off the court?? He talked plenty on the court. And he's one of our own.



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    Re: Rivers had surgery prior to AFC Champ game

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUATC View Post
    I don't get why people get so mad about players trash talking the fans. What gives the fan the right to trash talk the player's? Like it or not, it's part of the game these days. Reggie and Spike Lee for example. You don't think Stinson ever talked trash while walking off the court?? He talked plenty on the court. And he's one of our own.
    AMEN. Let the whiney Indy fans go cry to their momma.

    If I am ripping on a player all day long and he goes out, makes a good play and comes back to give me some, I take it like a man and continue to the watch the game.



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    Re: Rivers had surgery prior to AFC Champ game

    Quote Originally Posted by jdewaard View Post
    It's funny how some are called out as "trash talkers" while others are just called "competitive."

    Brett Favre, throughout his career has talked more smack than almost anyone in the league. How many times do you see him get in the face of opposing defenders between plays? Happens all the time. But is he a trash talker? Nope. That's just Favre being competitive. It's never portrayed in a negative light.

    I'm not saying that Favre is worse than Rivers, or vice versa. I'm just saying that a double standard exists.
    Farve has fun with his talking during the game and it is not trash talking. When Rivers is out on the field yelling at the other teams QB, that is different.

    I don't mind the jabbing with the fans like he did in Indy, there is probably a good chance he was saying something to the fact that SD was going to win, compared to what some drunk fan would say to him.


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    Re: Rivers had surgery prior to AFC Champ game

    Farve has fun with his talking during the game and it is not trash talking. When Rivers is out on the field yelling at the other teams QB, that is different.
    that's my point exactly. One is trash talking. The other is "having fun." Same thing in my book.


    And I'm not saying that trash talking is bad. Quite the opposite. I think that some good smack can really liven up the game. My only point is that some players are annointed by the media, fans, league, and can do no wrong. Perfect example was last night when Favre threw the INT in overtime. The announcers tried to come up with every reason in the book as to why he threw that pass. First it was pressure, then it was that maybe Driver ran the route wrong. Finally, after the replay had been played and it was obvious, they admitted that it was a bad throw. But, even that was watered down. Had Eli been the one to throw it, it would have been a totally different reaction.


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    Re: Rivers had surgery prior to AFC Champ game

    Oh...Favre can do wrong. Peter King called him out in his column today, and King loves the guy.

    What Favre has done and Rivers is doing are two very different things. Rivers wouldn't be getting the "trash talker" label if he were not going after fans or going out of his way, from the sidelines, to get in a guy's ear.

    Doesn't bother me - but it's very different from what #4 does.



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    Re: Rivers had surgery prior to AFC Champ game

    As a Vikings fan, I watched Brett Favre and John Randle jaw back and forth twice a year for a good number of years. It was the very definition of trash talk. Good natured? Maybe. But it was smack, nonetheless.


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    Re: Rivers had surgery prior to AFC Champ game

    I like Rivers' passion but the guy just isn't good enough to be trash talking people like Favre/Brady/Manning have earned the right to do.



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