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    Couch coaches - How to beat Kansas?

    With one of the biggest games of the season, what is the best way to beat Kansas?

    To me I think the only way to win a game like this is to win ugly. What I mean by that is to try and slow the game down as much as possible. ISU is going to have to really limit turnovers and always keep their person they are guarding in front of them to limit fast break points.

    If ISU wants a chance to win I think the final will need to be in the 50's.



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    Re: Couch coachs - How to beat Kansas?

    Offense: Minimal turnovers, make your shots, dont rush, keep a slowed down tempo and make good shot selections

    Defense: Attack them every play, force turnovers, no easy buckets, keep them moving at a slower pace.



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    Re: Couch coachs - How to beat Kansas?

    Which would be very different from our style of play lately. In December, fans were clamoring for a more up-tempo style that "fit our players better".

    G-Mac has loosened those reigns a bit, now that most of the guys have learned his system.

    I do agree with you, that our only chance is to do this the ugly way, but ugly or pretty - I'd be damn surprised if we're within 10 points of KU when the final minutes arrive.

    I also think continuing to do what we've done recently that has been winning us basketball games wouldn't be such a bad idea. Our games certainly have not been the ugly variety over the last couple weeks.



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    Re: Couch coachs - How to beat Kansas?

    Lock KU in the locker room.


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    Re: Couch coachs - How to beat Kansas?

    I think this one and KSU could be ugly. I just hope it does not take away from the confidence this team is starting to develop. After that I don't think there is a game ISU can't win (not saying they are going to win the rest, but should have a decent shot). The big 12 is weaker than the "media" thinks. There is KU and then there are 11 average to above average teams.

    If ISU can steal one of the next two, 19-20 wins might not be out of the question and then you are talking bubble.



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    Re: Couch coachs - How to beat Kansas?

    Not sure how to beat KU at home. Do you mean beat as in cover the spread or beat them outright?


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    Re: Couch coachs - How to beat Kansas?

    Here are three suggestions:

    1. Install a new free throw/dead ball/fast break offense. It's legal in Lawrence you know.

    2. Make sure Ed Hightower sees the nasty photoshop thread the KU fans created (see other thread).

    3. Somehow convince the KU players and coaches that Wednesday night's game is really a first-round NCAA tournament game. That should do it.



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    Re: Couch coachs - How to beat Kansas?

    Quote Originally Posted by brianhos View Post
    Not sure how to beat KU at home. Do you mean beat as in cover the spread or beat them outright?

    Spoken like a true bookie.



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    Re: Couch coachs - How to beat Kansas?

    Quote Originally Posted by cloneaholic View Post
    Here are three suggestions:

    1. Install a new free throw/dead ball/fast break offense. It's legal in Lawrence you know.

    2. Make sure Ed Hightower sees the nasty photoshop thread the KU fans created (see other thread).

    3. Somehow convince the KU players and coaches that Wednesday night's game is really a first-round NCAA tournament game. That should do it.
    4. Tell them the game is really on Thursday so it can be on the BTN.



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    Re: Couch coachs - How to beat Kansas?

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Cy View Post
    With one of the biggest games of the season, what is the best way to beat Kansas?

    To me I think the only way to win a game like this is to win ugly. What I mean by that is to try and slow the game down as much as possible. ISU is going to have to really limit turnovers and always keep their person they are guarding in front of them to limit fast break points.

    If ISU wants a chance to win I think the final will need to be in the 50's.

    Agreed! As much as I like the fact we're playing a little more up-temp ball lately, that's the kind of game Kansas wants.

    We need to slow it down and make it a half-court game; use a lot of the shot clock, work for good shots and get KU out of the rhythm they are used to.

    Above all, handle any pressure & TAKE CARE OF THE BALL!

    I'am actually somewhat excited for this game.....if we have a good game plan and execute it to almost near perfection, I think we can compete with KU. There is very little or no margin for error though.



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    Re: Couch coachs - How to beat Kansas?

    Slow it down. Maybe throw a triangle and two out there. Kansas isn't as good of shooters, so force them to shoot from outside.
    Kansas is very similar to Memphis (very athletic, good big man) and Tim Floyd's triangle and two made Memphis look very average. I think if you mix that up with a trapping man to man, it could confuse Kansas and slow down their offense. On offense, nobody can have an off night.



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    Re: Couch coachs - How to beat Kansas?

    Play them exactly the way we played Missouri.



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    Re: Couch coachs - How to beat Kansas?

    This isn't about moral victories this is about outright winning the game. Then ISU is going to win at KSU then beat Nebraska and then Colorado unitl we win the White House err the Big 12. ARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH.



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    Re: Couch coachs - How to beat Kansas?

    We could always put strychnine in the guacomole.



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    Re: Couch coachs - How to beat Kansas?

    Slow the game down to a boring, Larry E-like pace. I also think we need to attack the basker inside and draw fouls like we did against OSU. Jiri needs to get the ball and go to the rim. He doesn't need to make it. He just needs to get on the line.

    I like the 3 point shot but I don't like when the 3 comes out early in the shot clock. I know you'll probably have your best looks early but we can't be rushing to shoot in this game or the score will get out of hand. KU will use minimal shot clock when they have possession.

    On, D, just keep playing like we have been.


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