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    Re: SR Interview from Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by CYCLNST8 View Post
    ^Duh. I know that Jet tempo requires no huddle.^

    What I'm saying is that so far, our offense has been anything but "Jet." You prevent the defense from substituting, but checking out of every play really slows momentum. Don't let them catch their breath. Don't allow them time to analyze your alignment. The offense under Rhoads has been very reactionary to the defense instead of the other way around.
    True, but lining up also allows us to analyze their defensive alignment too. With Mangino in the box, we actually have someone who could actually analyze and not hide under their desk like I imagine Messingham doing when he was up there.



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    Re: SR Interview from Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by jburke View Post
    I just watched the interview from Monday. I really impressed with Sam's confidence in the offense, I know execution is proof. I just truely believe this team is going to better then the boards are thinking, health will be key, but I foresee success. Saturday will tell a lot, but I feel like we have a lot to prove, and the team knows it......
    There's certainly been a different aura this entire fall, and it's been all positive. Even the coaches seem confident. This is as much a mental game as anything and there seems to be a full court press on to instill confidence. Just hope it's real and taking hold...


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    Re: SR Interview from Monday

    Agree with swathmore, let's not be afraid to kill a little time on offense, and minimize the # of plays our defense has to be on the field. Unless going quick makes the offense more effective...



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    Re: SR Interview from Monday

    Don't care whether we go huddle or jet, I just want to see an offense that knows what they are doing. Way too much helter skelter and palms in the air the last few years before snaps.


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    Re: SR Interview from Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by BWRhasnoAC View Post
    You are referring to what I like to call 'Meerkat Manner.' Where everyone looks at the Mess baffled and confused, like meerkats. I don't blame them though. I couldn't believe what I was seeing either.

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    Ha- great analogy. That better explains what I was trying to say!




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    Re: SR Interview from Monday

    I am in agreement that we should run a more pro style, huddle up offense to slow the other teams down. Unless Mangino flips a switch and we actually start sustaining drives our "Jet Tempo" has done nothing but hurt our football team and defense.

    Hopefully, we now have a guy that can run it with our players.


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    Re: SR Interview from Monday

    I really had no problem with the way our offense was no-huddle last year, at least in theory. The problem was, we didn't have creative enough plays to make the defense pay for showing their cards. So basically, we were giving them all they needed to know about what we run. Hell, when you run the read option on half of your plays, it's not that tough to figure out what we are going to do.

    I think we would have been better off letting them sub players and us go ahead and get into a huddle to catch our breath a little after plays. Mess just wasn't smart enough of an OC to run that type of offense. It works when you have a Braxton Miller to bail you out, it doesn't with a beat up O-line and a hobbled QB.

    We should have been in protect mode for the QB last year, not, "Let's see how many hits he can take before he dies." mode. Our offense last year was basically a chess game. I see your move and counter with this. I think Mangino is probably smart enough to actually win that chess game. Mess wasn't.



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    Re: SR Interview from Monday

    [QUOTE=Clonefan94;4148941]I really had no problem with the way our offense was no-huddle last year, at least in theory. The problem was, we didn't have creative enough plays to make the defense pay for showing their cards. So basically, we were giving them all they needed to know about what we run. Hell, when you run the read option on half of your plays, it's not that tough to figure out what we are going to do.

    The Jet tempo only worked about 3-4 times in 5 years for ISU. The sad part was ISU would line up, look to the sideline 8 times and then just go ahead and run the play that was initially called. You would never see anyone shift unless it was a RB from one side to the other.

    Huddle, or don't huddle it doesn't matter until ISU can figure out a way to make teams get out of 8-9 man fronts and can consistently run the ball. I can hardly remember when 3rd and 1 wasn't a scary venture for the Cyclones.



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    Re: SR Interview from Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonefan94 View Post
    We should have been in protect mode for the QB last year, not, "Let's see how many hits he can take before he dies." mode.
    This almost made me spit my water. LOL!!!



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    Re: SR Interview from Monday

    where is this video at? link or what website?



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    Re: SR Interview from Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by CYKOFAN View Post
    I agree. Sam obviously sounds excited about teaming up with Montgomery again too. Like you said, if the offense stays fairly healthy, Sam could lead it to a lot of success.
    Fav word for Sam.



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    Re: SR Interview from Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCloned View Post
    The Jet tempo only worked about 3-4 times in 5 years for ISU. The sad part was ISU would line up, look to the sideline 8 times and then just go ahead and run the play that was initially called. You would never see anyone shift unless it was a RB from one side to the other.
    You don't have to change the formation to change the play. Generally each formation has multiple plays and some plays can even be run out of multiple formations. I wouldn't take not seeing anyone shift as confirmation that the play wasn't changed. I would probably look at what the QB does after the look to the sidelines as more of an indication. If he communicates with the linemen, it is probably (but not necessarily) changing. If he goes right into the cadence, it is probably not changing.


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    Re: SR Interview from Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by SCarolinaCy View Post
    Fav word for Sam.

    I'm glad I'm not the only person who noticed that. Just a nervous tick, I actually like it better than when the person keeps saying 'you know what I mean?'



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    Re: SR Interview from Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by VeloClone View Post
    You don't have to change the formation to change the play. Generally each formation has multiple plays and some plays can even be run out of multiple formations. I wouldn't take not seeing anyone shift as confirmation that the play wasn't changed. I would probably look at what the QB does after the look to the sidelines as more of an indication. If he communicates with the linemen, it is probably (but not necessarily) changing. If he goes right into the cadence, it is probably not changing.
    I agree with you completely, except those are the QB's responsibility. It's called reading the defense. Then you call hot routes depending on what you see. Mess doesn't need to making hot route calls in a 'jet' tempo offense. I know I'm beating a dead horse.



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