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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Quote Originally Posted by DandyCyclone View Post
    They're learning an entirely new offense.
    Still no excuses. Mangenious makes it simple and plays to strengths.How many years before we can count on our offense?


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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    I see they flipped Campos and Dunning. I see this as only being a good thing.


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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Quote Originally Posted by DandyCyclone View Post
    @ROBWGRAY: Depth chart update: Aaron Wimberly is still the No. 1 KR, per ISU media relations, not DeVondrick Nealy.

    Hard for us to waste a chance to score or really move the ball like you can on a kick off. Any bit of help this offense can get, should be taken



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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Quote Originally Posted by jburke View Post
    This is crazy to me.... I get the need for the big play, but these 2 are our work-horses if we lose them, I have a lot of fear in any success this year....
    You are crazy. On a per play basis, the added utility of returns is greater than the unsubstantiated claim of an increase of injury.



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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Quote Originally Posted by ajk4st8 View Post
    Hard for us to waste a chance to score or really move the ball like you can on a kick off. Any bit of help this offense can get, should be taken
    Nealy and West each had returns for touchdowns last season. When is the last time we've had two guys with special teams touchdowns returning?

    Come to think of it, we had about as many big plays last year as we've had in the previous 5 put together. Bundrage had about 5 long TD grabs.

    Big plays = potential



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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Quote Originally Posted by jburke View Post
    This is crazy to me.... I get the need for the big play, but these 2 are our work-horses if we lose them, I have a lot of fear in any success this year....
    If you're banking on Wimberly being a workhorse, you are in for disappointment. We saw it last year - he's not big enough to absorb the punishment of 20-25 carries a game. His best chance to make an explosive play is when he gets the ball in space with room to make a move, not running straight into the teeth of a stacked box.



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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/...de-starting-qb

    fwiw, ALABAMA still hasn't named a starting quarterback. 1 week until kickoff. Guess we aren't the worst at naming QB starters?



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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

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    I don't believe anyone is truly freaking out but even Trey Scott admits that the JuCo guys were recruited to come in and start immediately. That is why everyone may be a little concerned about what 2014 could bring.
    He thought 4 JUCO guys were going to start on this defense. Both safeties, MLB and a DE. Now, I won't hold Moore against him because that was a weird deal and then Ayeni got hurt. He predicted that before Taylor was even on board as well. The thing he doesn't/didn't realize is there was really good talent recruited at those positions before he got here. Seeley and Meeks were both way better than he thought they would be and Mutcherson and Moya are way better than he ever gave credit for. I thought Harris had a chance to start but I didn't think Ayeni or Pierson would start right away because Morrissey was always starting and Meyers was pretty good toward the end of last year. I like what Trey does from a coverage standpoint and he does put in a lot of effort but he didn't give the existing freshmen and sophomores enough credit when he made the claims about those JUCO guys.

    This is about what I expected. I thought one of the DEs would make a push, and Taylor did but it's pretty hard to show up in August and start right away. I thought Harris would start and if you would have asked me what would happen if he didn't, I would say he won't play much. He's a like a Matt T(I don't remember how the rest goes) On a team with much better options at LBer. I thought Moore could maybe start but I had heard really good things about the guys that are there.


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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Quote Originally Posted by DandyCyclone View Post
    Jordan Harris and Qujuan Floyd were brought in to be impact JuCo transfers on the defense and they're both 3rd string at their position. Should we be worried about this? I hope this is a good sign for our prep guys rather than a knock on the JuCo guys.
    Tough to come in and play in a new system that quickly. Hope they come on as season goes along. If going to recruit jucos, they need to contribute. Because they take away from the size of the younger classes, once you start down the juco road, hard to go back. They both seem too good not to play, though.



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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Quote Originally Posted by Tre4ISU View Post
    He thought 4 JUCO guys were going to start on this defense. Both safeties, MLB and a DE. Now, I won't hold Moore against him because that was a weird deal and then Ayeni got hurt. He predicted that before Taylor was even on board as well. The thing he doesn't/didn't realize is there was really good talent recruited at those positions before he got here. Seeley and Meeks were both way better than he thought they would be and Mutcherson and Moya are way better than he ever gave credit for. I thought Harris had a chance to start but I didn't think Ayeni or Pierson would start right away because Morrissey was always starting and Meyers was pretty good toward the end of last year. I like what Trey does from a coverage standpoint and he does put in a lot of effort but he didn't give the existing freshmen and sophomores enough credit when he made the claims about those JUCO guys.

    This is about what I expected. I thought one of the DEs would make a push, and Taylor did but it's pretty hard to show up in August and start right away. I thought Harris would start and if you would have asked me what would happen if he didn't, I would say he won't play much. He's a like a Matt T(I don't remember how the rest goes) On a team with much better options at LBer. I thought Moore could maybe start but I had heard really good things about the guys that are there.
    We don't know if it's the juco guys not being as good as we thought, the young guys being better, or something else. It could be either way.



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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Jucos rarely come in and start game one, especially if they weren't early enrollees.


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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Quote Originally Posted by nickcyv View Post
    Trey is covering the ISU football beat like no one ever has. He is doing an incredible job regardless of where he is from.
    Strange timing but after I posted this Trey announced he will be moving on from AllCyclones.com. A loss to the Cyclone community IMO.



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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

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    Strange timing but after I posted this Trey announced he will be moving on from AllCyclones.com. A loss to the Cyclone community IMO.

    YOU BLEW IT!!!!



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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Quote Originally Posted by jburke View Post
    This is crazy to me.... I get the need for the big play, but these 2 are our work-horses if we lose them, I have a lot of fear in any success this year....
    One of the very few things that was good on the ISU team last year was the KR unit, which means it was blocked well and coached well. Wimberly may be pushing to do this himself, as he is probably too small to be an NFL back, but might catch on as a return man. I like the idea on having guys that can make defenders miss and then have the speed to take it all the way, and Jarvis and Wimberly fit the bill the best.



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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

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    Also, I hadn't realized the holder is a JUCO walk-on deep snapper.

    That's ... unique.

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