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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneIce View Post
    Its been a disappointing summer for the JC transfers so far, with only Taylor really pushing to take over a starting position.
    Agreed.

    I think it's new on this depth chart that Darius White is ahead of Dale Pierson.



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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Also, I hadn't realized the holder is a JUCO walk-on deep snapper.

    That's ... unique.



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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Quote Originally Posted by ahaselhu View Post
    As is often the case, I think its a little of both. I still don't see what everyone was basing the hype on for most of our JUCOs, other than hope. I am a little surprised that Floyd isn't starting, let alone 3rd string, given our complete lack of experience at that position.

    That's not to say that they won't contribute. Just that I was tempering my expectations for them.

    Meeks, Mutcherson, and Cotton-Moya sound like they're going to be great players, but I can't see 2 redshirt freshmen, a redshirt sophomore with no experience, and a former walk-on all starting in the defense as leading to anything but trouble. We maybe could get by if we had a dominant line and linebackers, but we don't.

    Either we're going to struggle mightily on defense early on in the season, or the future is really bright for our defense.
    The two aren't mutually exclusive. I think everyone who follows the program expects those guys to struggle at times due to inexperience, but even if they do struggle early on this season that doesn't mean the future at those positions is any less bright. Mutcherson, KCM, and Meeks especially look to have a ton of potential.



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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Isn't it typical that summer enrollees don't make a big impact right away? This is the 2 deep for week 1, I don't think we can discount the new JUCOs yet.


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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Quote Originally Posted by bawbie View Post
    Also, I hadn't realized the holder is a JUCO walk-on deep snapper.

    That's ... unique.
    I just read further in his cyclones.com bio: He played JUCO baseball, not football.

    And he was Cole Netten's holder in high school.



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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    How about Brett Medders 6'3" 200lb behind Jarvis West! I know he's a walk on but you gotta love a kid from Ca. that wanted to be a Cyclone so bad he moved from the west coast to be one. He won't beat out Jarvis but he will be shoe leather tough like his sister Lindsay was on the bball court. Austin Flynn tough.


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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

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    "Team Rules"
    Ah yes. The dreaded team rules.



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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Quote Originally Posted by weR138 View Post
    Isn't it typical that summer enrollees don't make a big impact right away? This is the 2 deep for week 1, I don't think we can discount the new JUCOs yet.
    Yes; I clearly remember Tim Dobbins & Ahtyba Rubin struggling a bit in their first few games. They turned out alright.




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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Either some of you just started following college football or you just have to find things to freak out about. Unless a JUCO guy coming in is a top 10 5* type, rarely will he come in and be the starter on day 1. Tim Dobbins didn't start right away. Coe last year didn't play right away. There are plenty of other examples. It doesn't mean they are busts, it means they had a longer way to go than guys returning who have been in the system longer. Besides, Rhoads said they will all make an impact. Taylor and Pierson literally were cleared to practice the day of the first practice. Harris and Floyd are probably still learning the defense which doesn't happen overnight. The other 2 DEs are injured and Moore didn't make it.

    Carry on with the freak out.



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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Juco's almost always take a little time to adjust. Some of our best Juco's were guys that redshirted a year like Collin Franklin. Talented players like Bibbs and Wimberly took a few games to emerge last year.



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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Quote Originally Posted by ribsnwhiskey View Post
    Either some of you just started following college football or you just have to find things to freak out about. Unless a JUCO guy coming in is a top 10 5* type, rarely will he come in and be the starter on day 1. Tim Dobbins didn't start right away. Coe last year didn't play right away. There are plenty of other examples. It doesn't mean they are busts, it means they had a longer way to go than guys returning who have been in the system longer. Besides, Rhoads said they will all make an impact. Taylor and Pierson literally were cleared to practice the day of the first practice. Harris and Floyd are probably still learning the defense which doesn't happen overnight. The other 2 DEs are injured and Moore didn't make it.

    Carry on with the freak out.
    I don't think its a "freak out" to state that it is somewhat disappointing to see only 1 of the many JC recruits battling for the starting position, given what our defense looked like last year, and the fact that we recruit these guys to play. Taylor looks like the brightest spot based on the coaches comments. Hoped Harris would have a bigger impact after being here for all of spring ball.

    Dobbins did start right away by the way.



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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneIce View Post
    Dobbins did start right away by the way.
    Correct; but he didn't really start making a huge impact until a few games in.

    Harris is going to play; Wally likes to rotate.

    Take another look at Meeks' offer list. I'm excited to see what he can do.




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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Wait are Jensen and Cousin flipped?? Rhoads had Cousin at DT?



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    Re: New Depth Chart - NDSU

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    Wait are Jensen and Cousin flipped?? Rhoads had Cousin at DT?
    This has been discussed; for the first three games of the year against power run offenses, the defense will feature more of a power 4-3 set rather than the normal Big 12 nickel package. Cousin had mentioned that he and Jensen would most likely be on the field together to start the season.

    [edit]: I apologize, UNIGuy4Cy: it appears they have indeed flipped positions. Cousin was talking about playing DT, now it appears he is back to nose. My bad.


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