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    Good podcast. Thanks! They seem to give credit where credit is due. I guess KSU still has respect for Mangino.



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    Re: Dave Sprau on K-State podcast discussing Cyclone football ...

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    Good podcast. Thanks! They seem to give credit where credit is due. I guess KSU still has respect for Mangino.
    There's no bitterness towards ISU, generally, that I find here toward K-State. And Mangino is respected but loathed by many Wildcat fans for leaving and taking recruits to OU in '98, when State had the epic fail v. aTm that cost K-State a national championship match with Tennessee. A lot of bitterness remains from that time.



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    Re: Dave Sprau on K-State podcast discussing Cyclone football ...

    They seem to think ISU just needs a QB to step up in order to be an above average B12 offense but the D will struggle. I think the D will be better than anticipated so hopefully that means good things.



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    Re: Dave Sprau on K-State podcast discussing Cyclone football ...

    Very good insight from an outsider's prospective.


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    Re: Dave Sprau on K-State podcast discussing Cyclone football ...

    Quote Originally Posted by surly View Post
    There's no bitterness towards ISU, generally, that I find here toward K-State. And Mangino is respected but loathed by many Wildcat fans for leaving and taking recruits to OU in '98, when State had the epic fail v. aTm that cost K-State a national championship match with Tennessee. A lot of bitterness remains from that time.
    I think most of us are OK with KSU. We just wish we had our super coach to take us to the top for a while. KSU is the most similar to ISU in the conference. We are brothers!



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    Re: Dave Sprau on K-State podcast discussing Cyclone football ...

    Quote Originally Posted by surly View Post
    There's no bitterness towards ISU, generally, that I find here toward K-State. And Mangino is respected but loathed by many Wildcat fans for leaving and taking recruits to OU in '98, when State had the epic fail v. aTm that cost K-State a national championship match with Tennessee. A lot of bitterness remains from that time.
    Obviously K-State fans aren't bitter towards ISU football. I'll let you figure out why.

    And for the butthurt dating back to 1998, yeah, K-State is the only is the only program ever to have a coach leave and take recruits with him. Get over it.



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    Re: Dave Sprau on K-State podcast discussing Cyclone football ...

    Quote Originally Posted by cyhiphopp View Post
    I think most of us are OK with KSU. We just wish we had our super coach to take us to the top for a while. KSU is the most similar to ISU in the conference. We are brothers!
    Agree 100%. That's why I've never understood the hate here.



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    Re: Dave Sprau on K-State podcast discussing Cyclone football ...

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    Agree 100%. That's why I've never understood the hate here.

    We're generally sick of losing to KSU. That's really the only big deal. KSU has had what we want to have, and we don't.


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    Re: Dave Sprau on K-State podcast discussing Cyclone football ...

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    Obviously K-State fans aren't bitter towards ISU football. I'll let you figure out why.

    And for the butthurt dating back to 1998, yeah, K-State is the only is the only program ever to have a coach leave and take recruits with him. Get over it.
    Um, I wouldn't expect you to understand by the tone of your write, but this 'leaving' happened between the end of the season and the championship game. Mangino and Stoops didn't have the sportsmanship to wait until after the season. There was documented bitterness between them and the players that resulted from their announcement just before the aTm game. It was a matter of timing that got everyone in an uproar. Not that they left for a better place.



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    Re: Dave Sprau on K-State podcast discussing Cyclone football ...

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    Agree 100%. That's why I've never understood the hate here.
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    Re: Dave Sprau on K-State podcast discussing Cyclone football ...

    Went to Manhattan for the weekend for what turned out to be Chizik's last game...had a blast. Aggieville was a good time.

    I'd definitely go back to the 'Little Apple'


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    Re: Dave Sprau on K-State podcast discussing Cyclone football ...

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    Agree 100%. That's why I've never understood the hate here.
    ISU has been on that fringe of turning the corner since 1999, just never has like Kansas State. It's not like we don't go to bowl games and that, we just haven't taken the next step from 7-5 or 6-6.



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    Re: Dave Sprau on K-State podcast discussing Cyclone football ...

    Yeah I'd say K State is probably my 2nd favorite Big 12 team, mainly because they seem most similar to us. 99% of the people I've encountered in Manhattan have been great, although that's kind of expected when their football team is pushing ours around.



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    Re: Dave Sprau on K-State podcast discussing Cyclone football ...

    Quote Originally Posted by cyhiphopp View Post
    I think the D will be better than anticipated so hopefully that means good things.
    I want to agree with you, Hopp, but I have a hard time seeing it when I scan the two deep. Too much youth. I feel like this team is a year away.

    Morrissey is a warrior, though. I bet the defense starts to gel, but it won't be until the latter half of the season.




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