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    enCYCLONEpedia: Obvious is obvious

    Commentary on the Iowa State football schedule from Kirk Haaland.

    http://cyclonefanatic.com/football/n...us-is-obvious/



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    Re: enCYCLONEpedia: Obvious is obvious

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    Commentary on the Iowa State football schedule from Kirk Haaland.

    http://cyclonefanatic.com/football/n...us-is-obvious/

    CF quote of the year? It could be used in so many contexts.


    "this is really, really, really mind-numbingly obvious."



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    Re: enCYCLONEpedia: Obvious is obvious

    Indeed, this is who we are. A mediocre team that does better now at beating ranked conference teams than we used to be. It would be great to win the conference and I hope we eventually do, but I like being the team that is known for its upsets of ranked teams.

    Watch out OU! You are due . . . way overdue . . . in Ames.



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    Re: enCYCLONEpedia: Obvious is obvious

    Hard to argue with the cold hard facts, but last year's schedule wasn't all that difficult. UNI, Iowa, Tulsa, Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, Kansas, and WVU were all very beatable. That's 8 wins should we have had a decent team. Could probably find 8 wins on this year's schedule, too. If the schedule is unbeatable, we are playing in the wrong conference.



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    Re: enCYCLONEpedia: Obvious is obvious

    Quote Originally Posted by dualthreat View Post
    Hard to argue with the cold hard facts, but last year's schedule wasn't all that difficult. UNI, Iowa, Tulsa, Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, Kansas, and WVU were all very beatable. That's 8 wins should we have had a decent team. Could probably find 8 wins on this year's schedule, too. If the schedule is unbeatable, we are playing in the wrong conference.

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    Re: enCYCLONEpedia: Obvious is obvious

    Quote Originally Posted by dualthreat View Post
    Hard to argue with the cold hard facts, but last year's schedule wasn't all that difficult. UNI, Iowa, Tulsa, Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, Kansas, and WVU were all very beatable. That's 8 wins should we have had a decent team. Could probably find 8 wins on this year's schedule, too. If the schedule is unbeatable, we are playing in the wrong conference.
    A person could make the argument(I wont though), that we have been playing in the wrong conferences for the last ...oh...100 years or so.



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    Re: enCYCLONEpedia: Obvious is obvious

    This needs to be inserted into the rectum of both lakesbison and those other bison fans who chest thump about how they'd instantly compete in a big-boy conference.



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    Re: enCYCLONEpedia: Obvious is obvious

    Quote Originally Posted by dualthreat View Post
    Hard to argue with the cold hard facts, but last year's schedule wasn't all that difficult. UNI, Iowa, Tulsa, Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, Kansas, and WVU were all very beatable. That's 8 wins should we have had a decent team. Could probably find 8 wins on this year's schedule, too. If the schedule is unbeatable, we are playing in the wrong conference.
    I don't think the schedule was unbeatable at all...it was meant to be less of a commentary on last year's schedule and more of how ISU has traditionally been affected by increasing/decreasing the % of conference opponents that were ranked.

    They could've won 2-3 more games last season for sure, but they didn't and that sticks with the general theme of the last 65 yeara. Though it is extremely obvious.



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    Re: enCYCLONEpedia: Obvious is obvious

    Imo we are only in our second decade of making it a priority to compete in big-time college athletics (football). Given that late start, our future is brighter than our past imo.


    Last edited by swarthmoreCY; 08-19-2014 at 10:27 PM.

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    Re: enCYCLONEpedia: Obvious is obvious

    Quote Originally Posted by khaal53 View Post
    I don't think the schedule was unbeatable at all...it was meant to be less of a commentary on last year's schedule and more of how ISU has traditionally been affected by increasing/decreasing the % of conference opponents that were ranked.

    They could've won 2-3 more games last season for sure, but they didn't and that sticks with the general theme of the last 65 yeara. Though it is extremely obvious.
    I like your take on things khaal53... I've read your stuff for a while now.

    That said... our strength of schedule wouldn't seem so daunting all the time if we were better at the sport of football. To me that is the bottom line.



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    Re: enCYCLONEpedia: Obvious is obvious

    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow Snow View Post
    I like your take on things khaal53... I've read your stuff for a while now.

    That said... our strength of schedule wouldn't seem so daunting all the time if we were better at the sport of football. To me that is the bottom line.
    An easier schedule would facilitate getting better at football. Call it the KSU model.



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    Re: enCYCLONEpedia: Obvious is obvious

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    An easier schedule would facilitate getting better at football. Call it the KSU model.
    Agreed. I'm not arguing that at all.



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    Re: enCYCLONEpedia: Obvious is obvious

    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow Snow View Post
    I like your take on things khaal53... I've read your stuff for a while now.

    That said... our strength of schedule wouldn't seem so daunting all the time if we were better at the sport of football. To me that is the bottom line.
    Thanks. But to your point, I think i commented on that with this excerpt:

    While a difficult schedule itself doesn’t lead a program to worse results on a guaranteed basis, it is my contention that for a program like Iowa State it makes success far more of an uphill climb. It takes razor thin margins for error and thins them out further. For programs with elite success in recent years, or in their program history, or with upper echelon talent the trend between success and schedule strength is probably less staggering.




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    Re: enCYCLONEpedia: Obvious is obvious

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    Imo we are only in our second decade of making it a priority to compete in big-time college athletics (football). Given that late start, our future is pretty brighter than our past imo.
    So true. Amazing we made the cut to stay in a Big Boy conference. Pollard should get a bronze statue in the new SEZ atrium (no sarcasm intended).



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    Re: enCYCLONEpedia: Obvious is obvious

    Quote Originally Posted by khaal53 View Post
    Thanks. But to your point, I think i commented on that with this excerpt:

    While a difficult schedule itself doesn’t lead a program to worse results on a guaranteed basis, it is my contention that for a program like Iowa State it makes success far more of an uphill climb. It takes razor thin margins for error and thins them out further. For programs with elite success in recent years, or in their program history, or with upper echelon talent the trend between success and schedule strength is probably less staggering.
    It's a chicken or the egg thing.

    I'm 42 and as long as i can remember... we've always had a difficult schedule. If we wouldn't have been so mediocre at best in the past our schedules wouldn't have looked as daunting.

    It's a two way street.



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