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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    Quote Originally Posted by GTO View Post
    I'm thinking we end up ranked in the 12-15 range. However, some posters here need to at least wait to see Nader and McKay play before putting is on the top 10.
    Yes.

    I put ISU at 12 in this thread, which is confident extension assuming Nader and McKay -- and BDJ -- live up to hype. Even with that, it's highest I can go right now without seeing them in action. Around 15th is reasonable with core returnees.


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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    Beating KU three times will be fine.
    In one season? Seems awfully optimistic since that's the win total vs. KU in the last ten seasons combined.

    Sorry, couldn't resist.



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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    Quote Originally Posted by twocoach View Post
    Hey look, I get it. Kansas hated Mizzou so much that it didn't matter if them being good when we beat them helped us or not, I wanted to see them lose every single game by 50 points. I guess I am just not used to such a rivalry between two schools that aren't even in the same conference. It just seems weird to me. That's all.
    And you seem weird to us.

    Why is being in the same conference so important? A rivalry is a rivalry. Do you hate Mizzou any less now that they're in the SEC?


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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    Quote Originally Posted by ChampFantana View Post
    In one season? Seems awfully optimistic since that's the win total vs. KU in the last ten seasons combined.

    Sorry, couldn't resist.
    About due for the breaks to go our way then.



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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonesince78 View Post
    And you seem weird to us.Why is being in the same conference so important? A rivalry is a rivalry. Do you hate Mizzou any less now that they're in the SEC?
    A little, yes. And it will be less and less as the years go by. Since they do not stand between us and a conference title they went from an annoying little brother in our house to an annoying neighbor down the street.



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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    Quote Originally Posted by twocoach View Post
    A little, yes. And it will be less and less as the years go by. Since they do not stand between us and a conference title they went from an annoying little brother in our house to an annoying neighbor down the street.
    Not playing them at all anymore has more to do with it.



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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    Quote Originally Posted by awd4cy View Post
    Not playing them at all anymore has more to do with it.
    Yes, and 'our house' is the state of Iowa. They are most decidedly in our house and - it goes without saying - annoying.


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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    Quote Originally Posted by twocoach View Post
    Hey look, I get it. Kansas hated Mizzou so much that it didn't matter if them being good when we beat them helped us or not, I wanted to see them lose every single game by 50 points. I guess I am just not used to such a rivalry between two schools that aren't even in the same conference. It just seems weird to me. That's all.
    Every Nebraskan that I've met finds it odd. I chalk that up to Nebraskan water and culture.


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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    Quote Originally Posted by twocoach View Post
    A little, yes. And it will be less and less as the years go by. Since they do not stand between us and a conference title they went from an annoying little brother in our house to an annoying neighbor down the street.
    Let's be honest, they never really stood between KU and the conference title. The only reason you answered "A little, yes" is because you guys don't play each other any more. If you continued to have yearly games against Mizzou it would still be hated. In order to keep a rivalry you have to play the team every year. And for us and Iowa it's also a conference pride thing too, on top of just wanting to beat them. Yeah, it's safe to say that you don't get it. Live in the state between the months of September and March, and you'll understand perfectly.


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