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    Preseason Top 25

    Hey, everyone. I'm a huge college basketball fan and it's been such a long, boring offseason for us diehard fans. I had a little bit of time to do some research and decided to do my own preseason Top 25. For any of you that are in the same boat as me and love college ball, I encourage you to post your Top 25. Anyways, here's mine:

    1 Duke
    2 Kentucky
    3 Arizona
    4 Florida
    5 Wisconsin
    6 IOWA STATE!!!
    7 Kansas
    8 Louisville
    9 San Diego State (it may be a bit of a stretch here)
    10 North Carolina
    11 Connecticut
    12 Texas
    13 Virginia
    14 Wichita State (they're extremely overrated, some preseason polls have them top 10)
    15 Ohio State
    16 Michigan State (big drop off from last year)
    17 Virginia Commonwealth
    18 Villanova
    19 Oklahoma
    20 Gonzaga
    21 Dayton (before you call me dumb, they return 3 starters from last years team that didn't hit their stride until late February and it showed in the tourney)
    22 Stanford
    23 Kansas State
    24 Michigan
    25 SMU

    I would've put SMU in the top 15, but after losing Mudiay to China, that really hurt them. Larry Brown still has a very excellent team.

    Ranking ISU #6 may be a bit of a stretch, but even though I'm a total homer, this team does have a ton of talent and is capable of being a Top 10 team, IMO.

    Please include your rankings as well to help pass the time between now and November.

    Note that this poll does not mean that I think Duke will necessarily win the 'ship. It all depends on matchups and Duke has a pretty big tendency to come up short (see last year).



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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    I would think Kentucky will be #1, that roster is stacked. Not in love with Duke like everyone else is. I would have put them closer to 5/6 range. I think Texas and Kansas are better, and if ISU can live up to their potential - this might be the year with 3 teams from the Big12 in the final 4.

    Didn't Florida lose 80% of their starting lineup???

    If i had to pick 4 teams for the final 4 today it would be:

    Kentucky
    Texas
    Wisky
    Iowa State



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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    I would bet ISU will be in the back of the top 25. Again they will have some unknowns. Again they will punch the others in the mouth.



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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    Quote Originally Posted by bos View Post
    I would bet ISU will be in the back of the top 25. Again they will have some unknowns. Again they will punch the others in the mouth.
    Sure, ISU will likely wind up in the 12-20 range to start the season in most polls, but this is my poll, not what I expect the voters to rank everyone.

    Going back to that Florida comment, they lost a bunch of players and replacing a guy like Wilbikken (spelling?) is very tough to do, but they are still a stacked team and keep bringing in good talent.



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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    1. Kentucky
    2. Arizona
    3. Wisconsin
    4. Duke
    5. Kansas
    6. North Carolina
    7. Texas
    8. Florida
    9. Louisville
    10. Gonzaga
    11. Virginia
    12. Wichita State
    13. Connecticut
    14. Iowa State
    15. Oklahoma
    16. San Diego State
    17. Villanova
    18. Michigan State
    19. Ohio State
    20. VCU
    21. Nebraska
    22. Dayton
    23. Stanford
    24. Pittsburgh
    25. Syracuse


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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    Quote Originally Posted by erikbj View Post
    I would think Kentucky will be #1, that roster is stacked. Not in love with Duke like everyone else is. I would have put them closer to 5/6 range. I think Texas and Kansas are better, and if ISU can live up to their potential - this might be the year with 3 teams from the Big12 in the final 4.

    Didn't Florida lose 80% of their starting lineup???

    If i had to pick 4 teams for the final 4 today it would be:

    Kentucky
    Texas
    Wisky
    Iowa State
    Their roster is stacked every year. Last years team should have been able to win it all, and yet did not. They lost by more to UCONN than an ISU team - Niang. Teams like KU and UK are trying to win based mostly on talent. Teamwork with good talent can beat great talent with little teamwork. I am a little tired of starting every year with the same teams alway being placed at the top just because they got boatloads of unproven talent. Look at how the year ended for KU and Bill Self, they got it hadned to them in the Big 12 tourney and the NCAA's. They have one great player go down and they can't win a game. This is when coaching should come into play, and even though Self is a good coach, I am not sure he is a great coach. Even without their star center, theuy still had enough talent to win it all, and they did not. I am no longer buying into how "talented" these big name programs are, they are very beatable. Ity takes more than talent to win at the highest levels.



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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    1. Kentucky
    2. Wisconsin
    3. Arizona
    4. Duke
    5. Louisville
    6. Kansas
    7. Florida
    8. Texas
    9. Virginia
    10. North Carolina
    11. Iowa State
    12. Wichita St.
    13. Villanova
    14. Ohio St.
    15. Syracuse
    16. VCU
    17. Connecticut
    18. Oklahoma
    19. Gonzaga
    20. UCLA
    21. San Diego St.
    22. Michigan St.
    23. Kansas St.
    24. BYU
    25. Nebraska

    The last two may not actually make the top 25 this season, but they're my sleeper picks. I think losing Carlino (Mr. Mid-range Jumper) actually helps BYU, and Tim Miles has Nebraska on a good track.



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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    Quote Originally Posted by cemarclone View Post
    Their roster is stacked every year. Last years team should have been able to win it all, and yet did not. They lost by more to UCONN than an ISU team - Niang. Teams like KU and UK are trying to win based mostly on talent. Teamwork with good talent can beat great talent with little teamwork. I am a little tired of starting every year with the same teams alway being placed at the top just because they got boatloads of unproven talent. Look at how the year ended for KU and Bill Self, they got it hadned to them in the Big 12 tourney and the NCAA's. They have one great player go down and they can't win a game. This is when coaching should come into play, and even though Self is a good coach, I am not sure he is a great coach. Even without their star center, theuy still had enough talent to win it all, and they did not. I am no longer buying into how "talented" these big name programs are, they are very beatable. Ity takes more than talent to win at the highest levels.
    That team last year was mostly freshman, which a number of them came back. I know talent alone doesn't mean you win, but when you have 9 McD's all americans that have spent 2 years together - they may have developed some chemistry.

    Like i said, if i had to lay some $ down to pick the final 4 - Kentucky would be one of my 4. Along with a veteran Texas, ISU and Wisky team (so i got your chemistry covered)



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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    I will bet anyone that Kentucky is pre-season #1.



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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    I will bet anyone that Kentucky is pre-season #1.
    Even though OP didn't put them there, I don't think this is too controversial. However, I'll throw down the gauntlet... why shouldn't Wisconsin be 2? IIRC, they only lost Brust from last year's team.



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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    Quote Originally Posted by cemarclone View Post
    Their roster is stacked every year. Last years team should have been able to win it all, and yet did not. They lost by more to UCONN than an ISU team - Niang. Teams like KU and UK are trying to win based mostly on talent. Teamwork with good talent can beat great talent with little teamwork. I am a little tired of starting every year with the same teams alway being placed at the top just because they got boatloads of unproven talent. Look at how the year ended for KU and Bill Self, they got it hadned to them in the Big 12 tourney and the NCAA's. They have one great player go down and they can't win a game. This is when coaching should come into play, and even though Self is a good coach, I am not sure he is a great coach. Even without their star center, theuy still had enough talent to win it all, and they did not. I am no longer buying into how "talented" these big name programs are, they are very beatable. Ity takes more than talent to win at the highest levels.
    KU and ISU played in the same conference last year. The "talent" was enough to finish three games ahead of ISU in the conference standings. That's not an insignificant difference. You'd have to go back 25 years to find a KU conference record as poor as ISU's 11-7 mark last year.



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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    Quote Originally Posted by erikbj View Post
    I would think Kentucky will be #1, that roster is stacked. Not in love with Duke like everyone else is. I would have put them closer to 5/6 range. I think Texas and Kansas are better, and if ISU can live up to their potential - this might be the year with 3 teams from the Big12 in the final 4.

    Didn't Florida lose 80% of their starting lineup???

    If i had to pick 4 teams for the final 4 today it would be:

    Kentucky
    Texas
    Wisky
    Iowa State
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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    I will bet anyone that Kentucky is pre-season #1.
    really going out on a ledge there....



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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    Don't have time to do my top 25 but just want to say how awesome it is that we can have threads like this predicting where we'll be ranked to start the season and its actually legit



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    Re: Preseason Top 25

    I'm going to have to change my original poll and replace #25 SMU with Syracuse. Syracuse has a pretty decent team.



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