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    Re: Camp Insider: Mitchell Meyers earns starting DE spot

    Quote Originally Posted by ribsnwhiskey View Post
    Linebacker is the biggest question mark to me. Miller and Brackens need to show up as seniors. This is the first year under Rhoads we don't have a proven first team all-conference caliber LB. I hope Meeks can eventually be that guy.
    I agree, but was Smith a proven first-team all-conference LB going into 2009, or Klein and Knott going into 2010?


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    Re: Camp Insider: Mitchell Meyers earns starting DE spot

    Quote Originally Posted by Rural View Post
    I don't know about the 260 part but he was all of 5' 10".
    I made a bold prediction after his freshman yr that he would have the all time sack record at ISU. No idea where he ended up but definitely not the top. Never was the same after Yanda knocked him back into 3rd grade.



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    Re: Camp Insider: Mitchell Meyers earns starting DE spot

    Best DL we've had in awhile. There's some serious pass rush potential and there's the size to stop the run. Would have been a scary line with Coe and/or Irving, but it will still be good.



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    Re: Camp Insider: Mitchell Meyers earns starting DE spot

    Quote Originally Posted by RustShack View Post
    Best DL we've had in awhile. There's some serious pass rush potential and there's the size to stop the run. Would have been a scary line with Coe and/or Irving, but it will still be good.
    Too many injuries, not enough depth. I agree this line would've been really good with Coe and Irving (and also a healthy Luna and Ayeni) but I can't see them doing well with all the inexperience and lack of depth. Just imagine where we'd be without Jensen coming back and providing at least some experience. I think it's just gonna be another poor year for the d-line. Potential is there though for the ends to be good next year.


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    Re: Camp Insider: Mitchell Meyers earns starting DE spot

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormin View Post
    Just wondering, but WHEN has Iowa State EVER had more than a 2-Deep like this on the Defensive Line? I have been a Cyclone fan for decades and for the most part we have been fortunate to find 4 competent warm bodies to play on the Defensive Line. When we have had some good players, they pretty much played every snap.

    IMO, this line actually has the potential to be okay. And in looking at our past, it is probably above average over what we have had in the past.
    It was just 2 years ago.

    Scott/Irving
    Laing/Jensen/Simon
    McDonough/Woods/Durbin
    Maggitt/Kron/Morrissey

    Maggitt, McDonough, Laing, Simon, and Durbin were seniors. Scott had been productive as a sophomore. Irving and Morrissey were both showing potential.



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    Re: Camp Insider: Mitchell Meyers earns starting DE spot

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    It was just 2 years ago.

    Scott/Irving
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    Maggitt/Kron/Morrissey

    Maggitt, McDonough, Laing, Simon, and Durbin were seniors. Scott had been productive as a sophomore. Irving and Morrissey were both showing potential.
    Was actually a pretty solid line too from what I remember.


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    Re: Camp Insider: Mitchell Meyers earns starting DE spot

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    Re: Camp Insider: Mitchell Meyers earns starting DE spot

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    It was just 2 years ago.

    Scott/Irving
    Laing/Jensen/Simon
    McDonough/Woods/Durbin
    Maggitt/Kron/Morrissey

    Maggitt, McDonough, Laing, Simon, and Durbin were seniors. Scott had been productive as a sophomore. Irving and Morrissey were both showing potential.
    McDonough had a good year that year, but going into the year he was not considered to be great, same with Laing. Jensen and Woods backing them up has far less potential than the backup of Robby Garcia, Trent and Aka IMO.

    As far as Scott, he was always undersized as was Maggitt. I would definitely take Morrissey over both in a heartbeat, as well as Mitchell Meyers and Trent Taylor. And I consider today's backups better or at least as good as the backups then.

    Bottom line, I would not mind a combination of Laing and McDonough over Jensen and Cousin, but actually think our backups are better today than that line. And with the DE's it is no contest. Give me our DE's from today.



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    Re: Camp Insider: Mitchell Meyers earns starting DE spot

    Meyers started to make some plays towards the end of last year. Hope he can keep it going into Week 1.



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    Re: Camp Insider: Mitchell Meyers earns starting DE spot

    One thing people have to remember too is that there was a period where our linebackers were so good CPR could get by playing second string guys who weren't all that great. Wally great with linebackers, but never again will we have a corp as good as Klein, George, and Knott. Because of that, the defensive line has to consistently be better in the running game then they were in 2011 and 2012.

    With that said, this will probably pretty easily be Rhoads's best defensive line in terms of getting pressure on the QB.



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    Re: Camp Insider: Mitchell Meyers earns starting DE spot

    I see people talking about this DL having depth. I hope you are right but we don't have any known quality depth at all. At DE (our strongest DL position) we have one returning starter, one sophomore who played as a backup as a freshman, than JC recruits who have never played a snap in D1. Then at DT we only have one guy with any significant experience. so we don't have any kind of quality or experienced depth at all, so lets just hope the new guys are talented and play well.



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    Re: Camp Insider: Mitchell Meyers earns starting DE spot

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    I agree, but was Smith a proven first-team all-conference LB going into 2009, or Klein and Knott going into 2010?
    Good point. They ended that way. Maybe little Knott is the next one.

    Quote Originally Posted by BallSoHard4Cy View Post
    Too many injuries, not enough depth. I agree this line would've been really good with Coe and Irving (and also a healthy Luna and Ayeni) but I can't see them doing well with all the inexperience and lack of depth. Just imagine where we'd be without Jensen coming back and providing at least some experience. I think it's just gonna be another poor year for the d-line. Potential is there though for the ends to be good next year.
    They're better off without Coe and Irving. They may have been 2 of the most talented, but they were not team guys. Addition by subtraction.



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    Re: Camp Insider: Mitchell Meyers earns starting DE spot

    Quote Originally Posted by ribsnwhiskey View Post
    Good point. They ended that way. Maybe little Knott is the next one.



    They're better off without Coe and Irving. They may have been 2 of the most talented, but they were not team guys. Addition by subtraction.

    I assume we wouldn't have the Juco guys if Coe and irving were still here.



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    Re: Camp Insider: Mitchell Meyers earns starting DE spot

    Quote Originally Posted by MaccloNe View Post
    I assume we wouldn't have the Juco guys if Coe and irving were still here.
    Yes, we would.



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    Re: Camp Insider: Mitchell Meyers earns starting DE spot

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormin View Post
    Just wondering, but WHEN has Iowa State EVER had more than a 2-Deep like this on the Defensive Line? I have been a Cyclone fan for decades and for the most part we have been fortunate to find 4 competent warm bodies to play on the Defensive Line. When we have had some good players, they pretty much played every snap.

    IMO, this line actually has the potential to be okay. And in looking at our past, it is probably above average over what we have had in the past.
    If you were talking about LB's I'd agree with you, but CPR/Wally likes to rotate the DL's a lot.



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