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    Re: OTA TV Antenna (roof top with Directv)

    Quote Originally Posted by snowcraig2.0 View Post
    Anyone patched into an existing Directv splitter?
    I'm not sure I understand exactly what you are saying. Are you keeping DirecTV on some TVs and going to OTA on some others? If so, you will NOT be able to run your OTA antenna through the same splitter. You understand that right?


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    Re: OTA TV Antenna (roof top with Directv)

    Quote Originally Posted by keepngoal View Post
    The signal and picture are better from OTA... noticeably BETTER.

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    OTA is better b/c it is uncompressed but I'd be willing to bet 99% of viewers couldn't tell the difference even side by side.


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    Re: OTA TV Antenna (roof top with Directv)

    I prefer TVfool to antennaweb--tvfool gives a little more in-depth information about stations you can conceivably pick up with an OTA antenna--direction, distance, expected signal level, and transmitting frequency. Here's a link to the address search tool: http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?opti...pper&Itemid=29 They also have a forum where you can ask for guidance on your specific situation.

    Looks like there are some VHF stations within your range, but the ones that are likely to be of primary interest are in the upper VHF band and have relatively high signal levels. So you might get along OK with an antenna optimized for UHF.

    Winegard has some nice stuff, or did as of a few years ago. Everything is made overseas, but the company is based in Iowa. They're also one of the few manufacturers that publish gain data for consumer antennas, as far as I could find.

    If you're running to multiple TVs, keep in mind you'll have signal loss associated with any splitter(s) unless you're using some sort of active splitter/distribution amp.



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    Re: OTA TV Antenna (roof top with Directv)

    Quote Originally Posted by ruxCYtable View Post
    OTA is better b/c it is uncompressed but I'd be willing to bet 99% of viewers couldn't tell the difference even side by side.
    I'm one of those anal people with video clarity that can tell the difference most of the time. It depends though. For some of the highly watched sports or action programming where they deem higher priority and don't compress the signal as much, even I have a hard time sometimes telling the difference. However, for the lower-viewership, more standard HD programming where they compress the signal a lot, I can definitely tell the difference. CNBC would be the perfect example or something similar. Even the difference between cable/satellite companies with certain programming is VERY noticeable as every provider compresses at different levels for different programming. However, I'm also one of those dudes where DVDs drive me crazy to watch anymore as compared to Blu-Ray material. When I'm with others, I don't raise a stink, but when on my own with options, I refuse to watch DVDs anymore.


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    Re: OTA TV Antenna (roof top with Directv)

    Quote Originally Posted by DJSteve View Post
    I prefer TVfool to antennaweb--
    If you're running to multiple TVs, keep in mind you'll have signal loss associated with any splitter(s) unless you're using some sort of active splitter/distribution amp.
    I felt antennaweb underestimated the size of antenna I needed. The type of antenna recommended, I needed about one full size larger.

    You're right about splitting signals. I neglected to mention that I installed the antenna I linked above with one of these

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


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    Re: OTA TV Antenna (roof top with Directv)

    Quote Originally Posted by Triggermv View Post
    I'm one of those anal people with video clarity that can tell the difference most of the time. It depends though. For some of the highly watched sports or action programming where they deem higher priority and don't compress the signal as much, even I have a hard time sometimes telling the difference. However, for the lower-viewership, more standard HD programming where they compress the signal a lot, I can definitely tell the difference. CNBC would be the perfect example or something similar. Even the difference between cable/satellite companies with certain programming is VERY noticeable as every provider compresses at different levels for different programming. However, I'm also one of those dudes where DVDs drive me crazy to watch anymore as compared to Blu-Ray material. When I'm with others, I don't raise a stink, but when on my own with options, I refuse to watch DVDs anymore.
    Agree with everything you said. DVDs are almost unwatchable (and remember when they were the gold standard that would supposedly never be topped!). There's a bigger difference between a blu-ray (1080) vs a DVD (480) though than a compressed vs uncompressed 1080 or 720 signal.


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    Re: OTA TV Antenna (roof top with Directv)

    Quote Originally Posted by DJSteve View Post
    Winegard has some nice stuff, or did as of a few years ago. Everything is made overseas, but the company is based in Iowa. They're also one of the few manufacturers that publish gain data for consumer antennas, as far as I could find.

    I'm not sure of the breakdown or percentages, but Winegard still does some manufacturing in Burlington. I know a guy who went to work there for automation equipment. Not that it always means a whole heck of a lot, but they also have the "made in the USA" banner on their web page.



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    Re: OTA TV Antenna (roof top with Directv)

    Quote Originally Posted by ruxCYtable View Post
    Agree with everything you said. DVDs are almost unwatchable (and remember when they were the gold standard that would supposedly never be topped!). There's a bigger difference between a blu-ray (1080) vs a DVD (480) though than a compressed vs uncompressed 1080 or 720 signal.
    Yeah for sure. I can still watched compressed HD and still be relatively happy. DVDs are definitely in that almost unwatchable category, them and SD television. I still laugh at those people you run into who say they can't tell the difference between HD and SD programming and I still think "really????". However, it is funny how they are becoming fewer and further between.



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    Re: OTA TV Antenna (roof top with Directv)

    Quote Originally Posted by ruxCYtable View Post
    I'm not sure I understand exactly what you are saying. Are you keeping DirecTV on some TVs and going to OTA on some others? If so, you will NOT be able to run your OTA antenna through the same splitter. You understand that right?
    This is the 'splitter' I am talking about:

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    You can see that there is a input marked 'off air'.

    It sits below the dish on our roof which is on the NE corner, these pictures looks at the dish from the NNW:

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    I was thinking maybe mounting to the side of the house, or even to the same pole that the dish is on. Thoughts?



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    Re: OTA TV Antenna (roof top with Directv)

    Quote Originally Posted by keepngoal View Post
    This is your HD antenna? How far are you from the signal? How high up is the antenna?
    Yes, most HD signals run in the range of the old UHF signals. Lips work great for UHF. I am 21 miles from signal and it is in the rafters of my garage so maybe 15 foot tops.



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    Re: OTA TV Antenna (roof top with Directv)

    To the question about using the directv switch. You can try asking on this forum
    http://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/
    they used to be my go to place for satellite t.v. questions.
    good luck



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    Re: OTA TV Antenna (roof top with Directv)

    Quote Originally Posted by ruxCYtable View Post
    I put this one in my garage attic and it's been awesome

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    I went the whole route, first trying the small indoor antennas, then a smaller directional one from monoprice, but I should have started (and ended) here.
    Wow, with that big of a dish you should be the first to detect Russian Bear bombers trying a sneak attack via the North Pole. Post a notice here if that happens.



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    Re: OTA TV Antenna (roof top with Directv)

    Quote Originally Posted by snowcraig2.0 View Post
    This is the 'splitter' I am talking about:

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    You can see that there is a input marked 'off air'.
    The SWM8 (which is what you have) does support off air signals but on the receiver end I'm pretty sure you need to use a diplexer and not a regular splitter. Also, not all diplexers are SWM compatible so you might want to google around a bit before buying anything.



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    Re: OTA TV Antenna (roof top with Directv)

    Quote Originally Posted by ricochet View Post
    The SWM8 (which is what you have) does support off air signals but on the receiver end I'm pretty sure you need to use a diplexer and not a regular splitter. Also, not all diplexers are SWM compatible so you might want to google around a bit before buying anything.
    Would I need that if I am running straight into the TV, not into a DTV receiver?



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    Re: OTA TV Antenna (roof top with Directv)

    I have been looking at doing this for when we have bad weather and the satellite goes out. Hoping a set top will work..damn I am lazy.



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