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    Re: #1 Concern

    Quote Originally Posted by bigsag View Post
    What one should keep in mind is that Coach Mangino has always been an "OL guy". Sort of along the lines of how Coach Rhoads spend time with the DBs. Anywhere that Coach Mangino has been successful, he has had a very good offensive line. I suspect that his standards are high (for this group) and he will be pushing to make sure that they reach acceptible levels of performance.
    This. From Mark's perspective it's possible that he expects his o-line to be the best in the conference and won't rest until they are. There's always room to improve, and in year one of Mangino the offense will probably be significantly better in mid-October than they are in week one. That's not necessarily the case with each football team.



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    Re: #1 Concern

    Quote Originally Posted by Luth4Cy View Post
    This. From Mark's perspective it's possible that he expects his o-line to be the best in the conference and won't rest until they are. There's always room to improve, and in year one of Mangino the offense will probably be significantly better in mid-October than they are in week one. That's not necessarily the case with each football team.
    Agree with this. Heck, I'd be happy if we consistently can open holes for Wimberly and Nealy. If they become the best in the league then so be it. One thing we should always have ( from recruiting in the Midwest) is a good OL at ISU.


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    Re: #1 Concern

    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    My #1 concern is still the DL. I still fear we won't be able to stop the run. I hope to God I'm wrong.
    Agree.

    After re-watching the Texas game today, I think this is going to be a year of what-ifs. Had we returned an improved Coe, Irving, and Kron to go with adding Juco's like Pierson, Taylor, and a healthy Ayeni, we would have had a decent group imo.



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    Re: #1 Concern

    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    My #1 concern is still the DL. I still fear we won't be able to stop the run. I hope to God I'm wrong.
    In the BIg 12 I would be more concerned with stopping the pass.



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    Re: #1 Concern

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCrazy View Post
    In the BIg 12 I would be more concerned with stopping the pass.
    If you cannot stop the run because of your DLine, there is almost no chance you will stop the pass.



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    Re: #1 Concern

    Gentlemen, as a coach you always want to accentuate the positive traits of your talent, not over hype it.
    If you sing their praises and tell them there awesome, if they get beat, then someone on the team is to blame because the coach told us we were awesome.
    Did he lie?
    We aren’t awesome?
    I’m great it is you who isn’t awesome! (finger pointing)
    Or maybe the coach isn’t that awesome!
    Set the standards high but attainable, good is good, good is not awesome.
    Every game day some ordinary players will turn in an extraordinary performance, if we can get three or four of these performances on each side of the ball per game we will become bowl bound.
    Mangino is just keeping it real.
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    Re: #1 Concern

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    Agree.

    After re-watching the Texas game today, I think this is going to be a year of what-ifs. Had we returned an improved Coe, Irving, and Kron to go with adding Juco's like Pierson, Taylor, and a healthy Ayeni, we would have had a decent group imo.
    Geeeez.... I had forgotten all about Kron leaving too. Man, we've lost a ton off the DL.

    I just hope Jensen, Cousin, Garcia, Aka, and others can do their jobs on the interior. I'm not as concerned with the DE position with Morrissey, Myers, Taylor, Pierson, etc.



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    Re: #1 Concern

    It's early, but I was surprised and concerned to hear our offense did not score a TD on the defense. May just be how they were working the scrimmage.

    Coach 'em up Mark.


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    Re: #1 Concern

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    Agree.

    After re-watching the Texas game today, I think this is going to be a year of what-ifs. Had we returned an improved Coe, Irving, and Kron to go with adding Juco's like Pierson, Taylor, and a healthy Ayeni, we would have had a decent group imo.
    Had Coe, Irving and Kron returned would we have recruited Pierson, Taylor and Ayeni?



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    Re: #1 Concern

    Quote Originally Posted by im4cyru View Post
    Had Coe, Irving and Kron returned would we have recruited Pierson, Taylor and Ayeni?
    Yes.



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    Re: #1 Concern

    Quote Originally Posted by im4cyru View Post
    Had Coe, Irving and Kron returned would we have recruited Pierson, Taylor and Ayeni?
    LOL. Coe and Irving were still on the team when Pierson, Taylor, and Ayeni were signed.



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    Re: #1 Concern

    My bad. I don't follow recruiting in the micro. Hope you didn't hurt yourself laughing.



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    Re: #1 Concern

    You guys are getting to wound up about a brand new system that is being taught to these guys. It's like having a kid learn to ride a bike when you take the training wheels off. Do you expect him to just take off and know how it works? Absolutely not! The kid knows the basics of the bike but when take off the training wheels, it's a whole new thing. Ok, so then why are you so worried about the O-line? they will have their hiccups and such but to just expect them to just blow everyone out of the water is like expecting a child to just know how ride a bike without training wheels, It just won't work. So just have some patience and let the boys go thru the growing pains. Mangino knows what to expect out of these boys and knows its going to take TIME.



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    Re: #1 Concern

    I'm taking a "wait and see" on the OL. My "#1 concern reamins the corner spot opposite Tribune, because I'm simply not sure of the talent there. My #2 would be the inexperience of the secondary, and defense in general. The OL is somewhere after that.




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    Re: #1 Concern

    No. 1 concern is the lack of experience and probably talent in the front 7 on D. Our first 3 games are against power running teams, so if we can't stop the run it'll get ugly early.


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