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    Re: I would love to sit down with Mangino....

    I think he'd tell you what he's said since he's came to Iowa State: there's enough talent to be successful, but that talent was not used correctly last season.



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    Re: I would love to sit down with Mangino....

    Quote Originally Posted by Luth4Cy View Post
    I think he'd tell you what he's said since he's came to Iowa State: there's enough talent to be successful, but that talent was not used correctly last season.
    Hate to call for a link...but did he actually say that bolded part?



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    Re: I would love to sit down with Mangino....

    Quote Originally Posted by Rods79 View Post
    Hate to call for a link...but did he actually say that bolded part?

    I think it was more along the lines of "we just have to figure out how to put the pieces together" or something of that general thought line.



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    Re: I would love to sit down with Mangino....

    Quote Originally Posted by Rods79 View Post
    Hate to call for a link...but did he actually say that bolded part?
    He didn't, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say it was implied. If he really thinks it was used correctly than I don't know what the hell he's doing here, because then nothings going to improve this year.



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    Re: I would love to sit down with Mangino....

    Quote Originally Posted by cmjh10 View Post
    I think people will be in for a rude awakening if they think this offense will be as good as they think. If you look at teams that get new OC's who run a different system, the first season isnt as good as some thought it would be, but the second season is usually where the lightbulbs come on.
    I for one, am looking forward to seeing the MM offense in action. It may not be hitting on all cylinders right out of the gate, but I think some of you guys will be surprised how much better an offense can be with a real OC, with a real plan instead of a guy wanting his players to watch ESPN's play of the day to see what they are doing wrong.



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    Re: I would love to sit down with Mangino....

    Quote Originally Posted by bigsag View Post
    Seriously, you never would want to sit down with an actual football coach and review film of a game. Within ten minutes, it would become apparent to you, that you actually know nothing about the game of football. A coach would point out things that you likely have NEVER even noticed. You may even decide that you know so little that you conclude that perhaps you should no longer post your football opinions on CF. None of us want that.........

    I learned on the fly in Texas in my early 20's.


    I played h.s. football, and was an assistant coach on a freshman team in Iowa for one season.

    In Texas?

    First day of Sat. morning film session ( I was a middle school coach scouting for varsity), I pretty much thought the same thing you just described. Except for the posting on CF part.



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    Re: I would love to sit down with Mangino....

    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    .... after he's taken a truth serum, and then watch every single one of ISU's football games from last year.

    I consider myself pretty knowledgeable about football (insert jokes here, I know), but I would love to hear Mangino's flat out honest critique of our offense last year.
    After Mangino rolled on the floor laughing, he would tell that our offense was a "Mess".



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    Re: I would love to sit down with Mangino....

    Quote Originally Posted by Luth4Cy View Post
    I think he'd tell you what he's said since he's came to Iowa State: there's enough talent to be successful, but that talent was not used correctly last season.
    Mangino said that we have talent. And he said that we needed a "remodeling job" not a complete overhaul and renovation.

    Pretty obvious that the "Mess" Offense was a complete ClusterF---. And was a Hodge Podge of assorted things that were not designed to really accomplish much of anything. A Mangino Offense will use plays to set up other plays. Most likely simpler and easier for the players to execute successfully. It will play to the strengths that our players have. And not try to fit a round peg into a square hole.

    IMO, the players seem to be enjoying their new coaches and there is an infectious positive vibe amongst everyone coming into this season. I like it.


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    Re: I would love to sit down with Mangino....

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormin View Post
    Mangino said that we have talent. And he said that we needed a "remodeling job" not a complete overhaul and renovation.

    Pretty obvious that the "Mess" Offense was a complete ClusterF---. And was a Hodge Podge of assorted things that were not designed to really accomplish much of anything. A Mangino Offense will use plays to set up other plays. Most likely simpler and easier for the players to execute successfully. It will play to the strengths that our players have. And not try to fit a round peg into a square hole.

    IMO, the players seem to be enjoying their new coaches and there is an infectious positive vibe amongst everyone coming into this season. I like it.
    Yeah, I don't think Mangino would have come to Ames and put his reputation on the line if he didn't think we had talent.



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    Re: I would love to sit down with Mangino....

    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    Not making any teams that blitz you pay for it by throwing a quick slant to the TE or WR in the area vacated by the blitzing LBs, is not smart playcalling.
    This. If Mangino can make defenses actually PAY once a freaking game for dialing up a blitz, I probably won't know what to do with myself.

    Another thing that's bugged me as well, and it's starting to change with the threat that Bundrage poses, but ISU rarely gets "easy" long distance touchdowns. We saw the TD against Texas last year, and he split some coverage nicely against WVU and took it to the house. If ISU can occasionally break one every couple games, that would probably work wonders for the ol' winning percentage.


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    Re: I would love to sit down with Mangino....

    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    Yeah, I don't think Mangino would have come to Ames and put his reputation on the line if he didn't think we had talent.
    Mangino was doing what he wanted to do and was enjoying life. Mangino and his wife went through a really tough time. Mangino is here because he wants to be. Mangino knew we had the tools. Rhoads has given him the keys to the Offense. Mangino has great coaches in place including long time OL Coach and associate Blaney. Plus his son Tommy. IMO, they are having a ball. Plus the players must feel like they have been released from bondage after playing for Mess and Klenakis. You can see it.



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    Re: I would love to sit down with Mangino....

    IMO, the players seem to be enjoying their new coaches and there is an infectious positive vibe amongst everyone coming into this season. I like it.[/QUOTE]

    I hope this is the case this year. It is never fun to lose games, but it had to be extra bad to come in each morning and deal with coaches you didn't like or respect, and it sounds like there was at least some of that going on last year.



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    Re: I would love to sit down with Mangino....

    The honeymoon will be over soon, and some idiot posters will be calling for his head after three games. Installing a new offense is never easy. If he can make us competitive right off the bat, it'll be the shortest stay for a coordinator in Cyclone football history.




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    Re: I would love to sit down with Mangino....

    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha Cy View Post
    This. If Mangino can make defenses actually PAY once a freaking game for dialing up a blitz, I probably won't know what to do with myself.

    Another thing that's bugged me as well, and it's starting to change with the threat that Bundrage poses, but ISU rarely gets "easy" long distance touchdowns. We saw the TD against Texas last year, and he split some coverage nicely against WVU and took it to the house. If ISU can occasionally break one every couple games, that would probably work wonders for the ol' winning percentage.
    I completely agree.

    We constantly saw opposing defenses stack the box against us last year and blitz. And Mess had no answer for it. I wanted SO badly to just see us once make a team pay for blitzing us. Any decent OC would do this over and over again.

    And throwing deep once in a while is NOT risky. It loosens up the defense considerably and opens up the running game.



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    Re: I would love to sit down with Mangino....

    Quote Originally Posted by ajk4st8 View Post
    Tom Herman agrees. Winning with our talent and/or depth is pretty tough.

    The type of guys that we think are REALLY good for us are a dime a dozen in the Big 12.
    We have considerably more talent on offense, than when Tom was here.



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