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    Re: Notre Dame suspends four starters - academic fraud suspected

    A lot of crap has happened at ND since Kelly got there. Glad it didn't work out for him to coach here.



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    Re: Notre Dame suspends four starters - academic fraud suspected

    Funny that ND and NC can't hide it but u of dookey can.


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    Re: Notre Dame suspends four starters - academic fraud suspected

    ND sold out when Lou Holsht went there. Heard from people that standards were lowered for signees to get in. They weren't too happy about it and didn't mind him leaving.



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    Re: Notre Dame suspends four starters - academic fraud suspected

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    Agreed. I know people say that it isn't fair to punish future ones, but you can't go punish the past ones. They've all moved on, one way or another.
    The past is the past nothing you can do change "Really" change it. Only thing you can do is go after the future of the program. Similar to Penn St.



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    Re: Notre Dame suspends four starters - academic fraud suspected

    There will be some stories and than some token meaningless "punishment" because, with apologies to George Orwell, " All schools are equal, but some schools are more equal than others".

    The really bad news is that the only thing worst than the NCAA would be no NCAA. It's like having a bad sheriff in the wild west that at least arrests some people some of the time versus total anarchy.



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    Re: Notre Dame suspends four starters - academic fraud suspected

    Quote Originally Posted by ISU42 View Post
    A lot of crap has happened at ND since Kelly got there. Glad it didn't work out for him to coach here.
    That's the wrong kelly I believe.



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    Re: Notre Dame suspends four starters - academic fraud suspected

    I never got the idea of punishing a program by making them vacate wins, does that actually matter to anyone?



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    Re: Notre Dame suspends four starters - academic fraud suspected

    It's Notre Dame. I'll believe something of significance will happen to them when I actually see it.



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    Re: Notre Dame suspends four starters - academic fraud suspected

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbuk View Post
    That's the wrong kelly I believe.
    Are these two different guys?


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    Re: Notre Dame suspends four starters - academic fraud suspected

    So if this is proven, and they have proof of who cheated strip the degrees from those that have them that shouldn't. Punish the football team by reducing scholarships, no bowl games and major fines. Also make sure those that cheated and got degrees count double against the rules for graduation rates.

    If I am an alum of a school and this was pervasive I would want the college to take action against the students, let the NCAA deal with the football team or AD.


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    Re: Notre Dame suspends four starters - academic fraud suspected

    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    I never got the idea of punishing a program by making them vacate wins, does that actually matter to anyone?
    Well, the benefit for ND is they can officially forget that the 2012 title game never happened.



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    Re: Notre Dame suspends four starters - academic fraud suspected

    I wonder what Mike Golic will say about this tomorrow?

    Probably that everyone is doing it, but ND was the only school with enough integrity to turn themselves in. And it will make me want to barf.



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    Re: Notre Dame suspends four starters - academic fraud suspected

    Quote Originally Posted by clonedude View Post
    I wonder what Mike Golic will say about this tomorrow?

    Probably that everyone is doing it, but ND was the only school with enough integrity to turn themselves in. And it will make me want to barf.
    Greeny will then say something nasaly and they'll talk about the NFL for the remaing 3 hours and 58 minutes of the show.



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