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    Re: Column: Don't sleep on Sam

    Agree that Sam is a possibility to start at QB. I am thinking a tie will go to Rohach being the starter though.

    IMO, the competition and uncertainty has to do with both QB's having decent fall camp's but not exceptional ones. A person can look at this as a glass half full or a glass half empty. Both QB's are better than last year. But there is not a lot of difference between the two. We are actually fortunate to have 2 viable options. 2 QB's that have started games and actually have won.



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    Re: Column: Don't sleep on Sam

    A healthy SR was always the guy imo. With a better OC behind him and OLine in front of him SR gives us the best chance to win imo.


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    Re: Column: Don't sleep on Sam

    Last year's Texas game made me a "Sam fan". You could see that he was hurting; but, he was going all out, battling for a Cyclone win, clear till the end of the game.



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    Re: Column: Don't sleep on Sam

    I might be in the minority here but I thought Richardson was quite a bit better than Rohach last year. With our pass protection it was hard for anyone to be successful but it seemed like Sam was able to get more from what was there to me. Playing hurt and knowing he had 2 seconds to get a pass off clearly hurt his confidence but I hope Mangino is able to re-harness some of his production from the end of 2012.

    Whoever the guy is, we need them to be more productive. Has just as much to do with the WR and especially O-line play as it does improving our Grant or Sam.



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    Re: Column: Don't sleep on Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    A healthy SR was always the guy imo. With a better OC behind him and OLine in front of him SR gives us the best chance to win imo.
    I fully agree with this except for one caveet. Our OC and line was so bad that I think Sam really got hesitant and gun shy. With his new size if he can regain confidence in his reads and receivers he is the guy IMO. That is a big if though, I would get him to sit down and watch that first game against KU several times.



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    Re: Column: Don't sleep on Sam

    Sam put up over 50 points against a salty D in his first start. I'll be happy with any of the three playing QB. A great signal caller, great hands to the outside, a solid RB, and an experienced OL, we have to be better offensively right? I was thinking about Lakes' comment about their new QB being bigger, stronger, and faster than their QB from last year. We also have that, but in the same guys that have won Big XII games.



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    Re: Column: Don't sleep on Sam

    I just want to find a QB and stick with him. Not take him out after his first struggle.


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    Re: Column: Don't sleep on Sam

    Plain and simple ..... Mess made Sam carry the ball to much last year. There was no way with that play calling system any QB could have flourished without being like Eric Crouch or something.

    Grant has the momentum but Sam had the job last year and in my opinion took one for the team early on.

    It is a fair fight but to compare the two seasons last year is invalid.

    This is a glass half full year at QB. Both are better than Barnette and Jantz.


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    Re: Column: Don't sleep on Sam

    If it is a coin flip I go with Sam. That mullet and stache on Rohach makes me queezy.



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    Re: Column: Don't sleep on Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by DMCYFAN View Post
    I might be in the minority here but I thought Richardson was quite a bit better than Rohach last year. With our pass protection it was hard for anyone to be successful but it seemed like Sam was able to get more from what was there to me. Playing hurt and knowing he had 2 seconds to get a pass off clearly hurt his confidence but I hope Mangino is able to re-harness some of his production from the end of 2012.

    Whoever the guy is, we need them to be more productive. Has just as much to do with the WR and especially O-line play as it does improving our Grant or Sam.
    I don't think you're in the minority; I agree. Sam struggled because of the o-line injuries, his own injuries, and the fact that his position coach and offensive coordinator was not good. He had a tendency to hang on to the ball way too long, but I would blame that more on the offensive coordinator/position coach and the offensive line injuries than on him. I hope with a competent offensive coaching staff and a bolstered offensive line, he'll be much better.



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    Re: Column: Don't sleep on Sam

    Quote Originally Posted by ArgentCy View Post
    I fully agree with this except for one caveet. Our OC and line was so bad that I think Sam really got hesitant and gun shy. With his new size if he can regain confidence in his reads and receivers he is the guy IMO. That is a big if though, I would get him to sit down and watch that first game against KU several times.
    Grant has been described being like a bulldog and has more of the persona typically expected of QBs. Imo that resiliency gave him a big advantage over Sam last year. Between the extra muscle and maturation, plus improvement in OC and line play, imo it will be more even in that regard.



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    Re: Column: Don't sleep on Sam

    Hoping Sam gets the nod. He deserves a chance to prove himself in games with a solid O-Line



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    Re: Column: Don't sleep on Sam

    I wouldn't be surprised if all three of these guys played. There will be an injured QB.


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    Re: Column: Don't sleep on Sam

    I think Sam could be a great quarterback if he has good protection and isn't constantly battling injuries. I thought Sam had much better accuracy but he struggled when he was hurt.



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