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    Re: What is everyone expecting? (in the long run)

    I get the non-conference argument/excuse in other years but not this year. We play one decent team (Iowa) and they aren't even that good.



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    Re: What is everyone expecting? (in the long run)

    Long term- win at least six games a year
    This season- 5 wins, so I at least have an interest in watching all the games, well except the Texas game which I won't be able to watch.


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    Re: What is everyone expecting? (in the long run)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbuk View Post
    A 1-AA team, toledo, and a decent iowa team is a break non-conference wise.
    It's not great, but it definitely isn't the most painful schedule. Not a Murderer's Row there.


    Since we are an elite team now, let's go get that One Cyclone Moment.
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    Re: What is everyone expecting? (in the long run)

    Quote Originally Posted by DFWClone View Post
    I get the non-conference argument/excuse in other years but not this year. We play one decent team (Iowa) and they aren't even that good.
    Context is always lost on you.
    It is more difficult than the most non-con in CFB, and certainly more difficult than what has been key to many P5 schools that have built their program. Go research how many have a P5 non-con road game, or even any road games. Then go research how many have a 4th game against a team easier than the average B12 game. No one is saying it is a top-5 most difficult non-conference slate, but it is closer than you think, especially considering the context of 9 conference games and a rebuilding program.



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    Re: What is everyone expecting? (in the long run)

    Quote Originally Posted by im4cyclones View Post
    The money is good for everyone. Any increase for us is an increase for all. So our gap with Power-5 teams really doesn't shink. Now, I agree that it helps us versus non Power-5 teams.
    The budgets may just shift up, but imo the gap effectively shrinks to some degree. Getting a 50k raise when you are at the poverty line changes your future, when you are already making 300k, its impact is much less.



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    Re: What is everyone expecting? (in the long run)

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    No it wouldn't. Yeah, our football history is below average, but come on. KU won 25% of their games last year, 11% in conference play. Iowa State's all-time winning is 46%, 34% in conference. If the definition of "right now" is the past 5 years, KU is at 18% winning percentage, 7.5% in conference play
    What I meant to say was that even including the last few years, Kansas has a better historical record than we do. If you're only looking at the last five years, you're right, there's no question we've been the better team. I just worded it poorly.

    I'm still torn on whether I'd rather have a past decade like Kansas' or ours.


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    Re: What is everyone expecting? (in the long run)

    Didn't Rhoads say something about coming here to build a championship program?

    If the head coach says that, that is what to expect in the long run.




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    Re: What is everyone expecting? (in the long run)

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    It's not great, but it definitely isn't the most painful schedule. Not a Murderer's Row there.
    Agree. Our non-conference schedule is not bad at all. Some posters act like no one else plays decent teams. First, I think it goes without saying that, with very few exceptions, teams from the MAC, Sun Belt, etc. or FCS teams are teams we or any B12 team should beat. Sure, Toledo may be better than Central Arkansas or whatever, but tough to argue a tough schedule and use lower-level teams as proof.

    With that in mind, I just looked at who other B12 teams play from FBS power conferences (or strong independents).

    Iowa State: Iowa
    TCU: Minnesota
    Texas: BYU and UCLA
    Baylor: No one
    OSU: Florida State
    Kansas: Duke
    WVU: Alabama, Maryland
    Tech: Arkansas
    KSU: Auburn
    Oklahoma: Tennessee

    I would put us in the middle, if not the lower half of difficulty in the conference. West Virginia, Texas, OSU, Kansas, KSU definitely more difficult. Baylor clearly easier. ISU, TCU, Tech and Oklahoma pretty similar IMO.



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    Re: What is everyone expecting? (in the long run)

    Quote Originally Posted by isu81 View Post
    Agree. Our non-conference schedule is not bad at all. Some posters act like no one else plays decent teams. First, I think it goes without saying that, with very few exceptions, teams from the MAC, Sun Belt, etc. or FCS teams are teams we or any B12 team should beat. Sure, Toledo may be better than Central Arkansas or whatever, but tough to argue a tough schedule and use lower-level teams as proof.

    With that in mind, I just looked at who other B12 teams play from FBS power conferences (or strong independents).

    Iowa State: Iowa
    TCU: Minnesota
    Texas: BYU and UCLA
    Baylor: No one
    OSU: Florida State
    Kansas: Duke
    WVU: Alabama, Maryland
    Tech: Arkansas
    KSU: Auburn
    Oklahoma: Tennessee

    I would put us in the middle, if not the lower half of difficulty in the conference. West Virginia, Texas, OSU, Kansas, KSU definitely more difficult. Baylor clearly easier. ISU, TCU, Tech and Oklahoma pretty similar IMO.
    West Virginia plays Alabama? Yikes.


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    Re: What is everyone expecting? (in the long run)

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    The budgets may just shift up, but imo the gap effectively shrinks to some degree. Getting a 50k raise when you are at the poverty line changes your future, when you are already making 300k, its impact is much less.
    This. I think as more and more TV money starts pouring in, it will actually help schools like ISU close the gap a little bit. Schools at the top are going to see diminishing returns. An extra million is far more valuable for us than it is for Texas.



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    Re: What is everyone expecting? (in the long run)

    I expect basketball to be my salvation and football to be a distraction. Sometimes it will be a pleasant distraction but I won't assume as much. I'll enjoy the upticks more that way.



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    Re: What is everyone expecting? (in the long run)

    Given ISU's history in football, I expect that my expectations will be very low.



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    Re: What is everyone expecting? (in the long run)

    Id say competitive and to not feel like were being outcoached and outprepared every game.



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    Re: What is everyone expecting? (in the long run)

    I expect to compete in and try to win every game. I expect the players and coaches to have the same attitude.

    If not, we should shutter the program and focus on something else.



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    Re: What is everyone expecting? (in the long run)

    Quote Originally Posted by aeroclone View Post
    This. I think as more and more TV money starts pouring in, it will actually help schools like ISU close the gap a little bit. Schools at the top are going to see diminishing returns. An extra million is far more valuable for us than it is for Texas.
    That is why I think it is no coincidence that the whole paying players for their likenesses, etc. is coming to a head just now. It sucks a bunch of money right off the top - money the rich can afford but those that are just now getting out of crisis can not.


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