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    Re: RIP, Veishea

    Quote Originally Posted by awd4cy View Post
    How many destructive riots have you seen on a weekend that was't VEISHEA. I'll give you a hint, it's a tight round number.
    Or during the week of Veishea for that matter.




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    Re: RIP, Veishea

    Quote Originally Posted by im4cyclones View Post
    Don't get how people can blame Leath. How many chances should VEISHEA get?
    Apparently more than 7.



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    Re: RIP, Veishea

    Quote Originally Posted by awd4cy View Post
    it's a tight round number.
    Go on...



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    Re: RIP, Veishea

    Quote Originally Posted by Judoka View Post
    Go on...
    Shaped like a sphincter.



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    Re: RIP, Veishea

    Ban social media. None of this would have happened if it wasn't for Twitter!



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    Re: RIP, Veishea

    Way to go idiotic students, you guys gave a slow hanging pitch for Tom hill to get his wish.



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    Re: RIP, Veishea

    Quote Originally Posted by Section110 View Post
    They made the decision that they had to make. It's that simple. Some of you are too blinded by bias that you can't see that. A University as big as Iowa State absolutely can not associate itself with anything that has repeatedly resulted in rioting. Especially when it's their students doing the rioting, and it has become part of the tradition of the particular event being discussed. You add to the fact that a kid was almost killed last year as a result of the rioting and this is what you get. If the University had reinstated VEISHEA there would have been a whole can of worms in terms of potential legal battles in the future that they would have had to worry about.

    Think about this...
    - It's obvious rioting was becoming a part of VIESHEA
    - Had VEISHEA continued and another riot occurred ISU could have absolutely been held accountable for any damages, injuries, or deaths that were the result of it because they knew in advance there was a good chance it could happen and they chose to proceed with the event anyways. There's really very little that can be done in terms of law enforcement to prevent a riot. The only fool proof way to prevent a riot is to eliminate the event.

    In today's day and age, when a red flag is waving you had better take notice. That's what they did. They made a hard choice, but it was the right one.
    This post is just littered with common sense. Wish I could say the same about the thread as a whole.



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    Re: RIP, Veishea

    Quote Originally Posted by im4cyclones View Post
    Don't get how people can blame Leath. How many chances should VEISHEA get?
    He is taking the big bucks to make the call. He is the Leader. He takes the heat.


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    Re: RIP, Veishea

    ISU is bigger than Leath. At some point Leath will move on, and ISU will decide Veishea will be back.



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    Re: RIP, Veishea

    Quote Originally Posted by MrPeske View Post
    In other news they decided to change our name to the Iowa State Tornados... mark me down as a Leath unliker (I dont hate). What has he improved at ISU? Dude bagged Bubu and canned Veisha. I hope he leaves soon.

    What has he done?
    While I don't blame Leath for the VEISHEA decision, because he really was in between a rock and a hard place, he overall has made some terrible decisions in past couple years. The Bubu fiasco is one thing. I've heard from countless people who work for the university that he fires valuable University employees who have been there for decades with no cause.

    Seems like a guy that's on a power trip. He should takes notes from the job Geoffroy did..



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    Re: RIP, Veishea

    100 years of tradition lost



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    Re: RIP, Veishea

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    Periodic issues happen with every event though. I dont see anyone demanding the state fair end because of the idiots that turn up for that nearly every year. Ending VEISHEA because of the actions of a few idiots is a knee jerk response and does nothing to punish those that actually did anything... it just punishes the 99% that enjoyed veishea and had no part in the problematic acts.
    Did the State Fair have twelve riots since 1985?



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    Re: RIP, Veishea

    Quote Originally Posted by awd4cy View Post
    How many destructive riots have you seen on a week or weekend that was't VEISHEA. I'll give you a hint, it's a tight round number.

    Someone once mentioned some riots related to the Vietnam War and the Kent State incident.
    Apparently, Vietnam and VEISHEA can both cause rioting. Otherwise, never.


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    Re: RIP, Veishea

    Quote Originally Posted by exCYtement View Post
    While I don't blame Leath for the VEISHEA decision, because he really was in between a rock and a hard place, he overall has made some terrible decisions in past couple years. The Bubu fiasco is one thing. I've heard from countless people who work for the university that he fires valuable University employees who have been there for decades with no cause.

    Seems like a guy that's on a power trip. He should takes notes from the job Geoffroy did..
    I didn't follow the Bubu thing enough to understand what the uproar is over it - other than he drug his feet a bit. And I think this decision was near inevitable - and believe Geoffroy's hand would've been forced to the same outcome.

    I'll simply state that Geoffroy wasn't without criticism as well. First and foremost - firing Eustachy. Opinions differ on that one. I was unhappy about it, although I understood it would've been risky and a PR nightmare to retain him.

    And he cancelled VEISHEA for a year as well - correct? Not a popular decision at the time. I agree with others that VEISHEA will be reincarnated in some form, and soon.



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    Re: RIP, Veishea

    Quote Originally Posted by mj4cy View Post
    So come up with a better plan. It sends a horrible message to the students. It tells them "can't" is a word. You are supposed to be Iowa State....innovative....leading edge. Come up with success. Don't let detractors ruin your best showcase.
    Actually, I think it shows the students that, if you break crap, you have to deal with the repercussions.

    If I give my 4-year-old a toy, and she breaks it on purpose, I'm not going to go out and get her a new toy, or fancy up another toy to try and make her feel all happy inside. She broke the damn toy, now it's gone.


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