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    Bill Synder cuts loose

    Got to agree with a lot of what he says...

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    Re: Bill Synder cuts loose

    "Snyder also complained that society placed way too much value on the wearing of neck jewelry, and how necklaces pose a significant hazard when he attempts to feed. "You wouldn't believe how difficult it is to remove even the thinnest gold chain when it's stuck between your teeth," Snyder lamented, "Not to mention the spiked dog collars that some of these Emo kids are wearing. And garlic? Don't even get me started! These days people are bathing in the stuff."


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    Re: Bill Synder cuts loose

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Janny View Post
    "Snyder also complained that society placed way too much value on the wearing of neck jewelry, and how necklaces pose a significant hazard when he attempts to feed. "You wouldn't believe how difficult it is to remove even the thinnest gold chain when it's stuck between your teeth," Snyder lamented, "Not to mention the spiked dog collars that some of these Emo kids are wearing. And garlic? Don't even get me started! These days people are bathing in the stuff."
    "Snyder also said he dies a little inside every time a player thanks God by making the sign of the cross."


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    Re: Bill Synder cuts loose

    I completely agree with him. But it's too late. These stadiums are built with bonds and loans and coaches contracts are set. You can't just turn around and go back. College football is the NFL's minor league.



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    Re: Bill Synder cuts loose

    Well Bill, if it really bothers you, you could go coach at Drake or Simpson. They still play on Saturdays, and you could have a little office, and a smaller salary, etc. Somehow I don't think he is willing to give up his share of the gravy....

    He does have a point, that the money is getting out of control for some of the schools and others are just trying to stay up to survive.



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    Re: Bill Synder cuts loose

    I agree with him, but at the same time he knows KSU has to keep up in the arms race.



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    Re: Bill Synder cuts loose

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCloned View Post
    Well Bill, if it really bothers you, you could go coach at Drake or Simpson. They still play on Saturdays, and you could have a little office, and a smaller salary, etc. Somehow I don't think he is willing to give up his share of the gravy....

    He does have a point, that the money is getting out of control for some of the schools and others are just trying to stay up to survive.
    Because he is going to leave the school he has coached at forever and a day just to make a point? He is accepting the money and the change because he knows he has to keep up with the big dogs if K-state wants to be successful.



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    Re: Bill Synder cuts loose

    Quote Originally Posted by CyCloned View Post
    Well Bill, if it really bothers you, you could go coach at Drake or Simpson. They still play on Saturdays, and you could have a little office, and a smaller salary, etc. Somehow I don't think he is willing to give up his share of the gravy....

    He does have a point, that the money is getting out of control for some of the schools and others are just trying to stay up to survive.
    This. I agree with the concept of what he is saying but listening to a guy who has gotten very, very wealthy of off college football tell me that college football spending is out of control is a little humorous to me.

    Aren't you essentially the biggest sell out of all if you acknowledge the selling out and then keep cashing your paychecks?



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    Re: Bill Synder cuts loose

    Bill could not cash his paycheck.


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    Re: Bill Synder cuts loose

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbuk View Post
    Bill could not cash his paycheck.
    What exactly would be the point of Snyder not cashing his paycheck or taking no pay, other than being some kind of useless symbolic gesture? It's not like KSU is going to take that money out the college athletics machine and donate it to charity; that money would just be spent on something else inside of the KSU AD.

    I don't know what Snyder does with his money, but maybe he does donate alot to charity, and if that is the case, IMO he's doing more good with that money than leaving it in the KSU AD. Many coaches do donate alot to charity. And others don't...


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    Re: Bill Synder cuts loose

    Quote Originally Posted by jbhtexas View Post
    What exactly would be the point of Snyder not cashing his paycheck or taking no pay, other than being some kind of useless symbolic gesture? It's not like KSU is going to take that money out the college athletics machine and donate it to charity; that money would just be spent on something else inside of the KSU AD.

    I don't know what Snyder does with his money, but may he does donate alot to charity, and if that is the case IMO he's doing more good with that money than leaving in the KSU AD. Many coaches do donate alot to charity.
    You have no ground to stand on as far as complaining about the way thing is fundamentally set up, when you are an integral part in the thing you're complaining against.


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    Re: Bill Synder cuts loose

    Quote Originally Posted by jbhtexas View Post
    What exactly would be the point of Snyder not cashing his paycheck or taking no pay, other than being some kind of useless symbolic gesture? It's not like KSU is going to take that money out the college athletics machine and donate it to charity; that money would just be spent on something else inside of the KSU AD.

    I don't know what Snyder does with his money, but maybe he does donate alot to charity, and if that is the case, IMO he's doing more good with that money than leaving in the KSU AD. Many coaches do donate alot to charity. And others don't...
    Yeah I hate those types of arguments...that if someone doesn't like a rule they're required to act at a higher standard while their competition uses it over them as an advantage. You can advocate for something to be changed without penalizing yourself against others and not be a hypocrite. Happens more regularly in the cave but it's always silly when people suggest this idea.

    If there's anywhere I do think you call out Snyder it's his comments about the student athlete/education and the type of players he turned around KSU with...let's just say he wasn't competing with Northwestern for any recruits. He was a trend setter and out in front the way he built those teams, it's not like he set the trend for coaches being well paid.



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    Re: Bill Synder cuts loose

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbuk View Post
    You have no ground to stand on as far as complaining about the way thing is fundamentally set up, when you are an integral part in the thing you're complaining against.
    So...you are saying that people within an organization who see problems in that organization should never say anything to bring attention to those problems? How will change be affected if the issues aren't brought to light and discussed?


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    Re: Bill Synder cuts loose

    Quote Originally Posted by jbhtexas View Post
    So...you are saying that people within an organization who see problems in that organization should never say anything to bring attention to those problems? How will change be affected if the issues aren't discussed?
    I think he is saying that Bill himself is a part of the problem. He has made a living, to the tune of over 2 million per year (which could be more), off of the exact thing that he is complaining about. Just seems silly.

    He may see it as someone with an inside perspective lending credence to the argument but to some outside observers it makes him look like a hypocrite.



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