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    Re: Camp Insider: Sifting through the situation at DT

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Architect View Post
    First 3 games of the season are going to be trial by fire for that D-Line with 3 power running teams right out of the shoot. Yikes.
    I actually think that might be better. Both Jensen and Cousin are more of a Nose Guard type so I think maybe they could be adequate pluggers on run heavy teams. Its not getting any quick penetration against the spread teams that worries me.



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    Re: Camp Insider: Sifting through the situation at DT

    These were the Defensive Linemen from 2009. How many strike fear into you? Note the names and grades they were in.

    96 Austin Alburtis DL 6-1 266 RJr. Dallas, Texas (Tyler Street Christian Academy)
    98 Jerrod Black DL 6-0 287 RSo. Houston, Texas (Cypress Falls)
    62 Nate Frere DL 6-1 291 Sr. Muscatine, Iowa (Muscatine)
    92 Duane Hatfield DL 6-1 236 Fr. Johnston, Iowa (Johnston)
    99 Chase Hurtig DL 6-2 258 Sr. Hull, Iowa (Rock Valley-Boyden)
    53 Joe Jacobs DL 5-11 245 RFr. Agency, Iowa (Cardinal)
    85 Bailey Johnson DL 6-2 267 Jr. Homewood, Ill. (Homewood-Flossmoor)
    38 Roosevelt Maggitt DL 6-2 239 RFr. Riviera, Fla. (Dwyer)
    94 Jake McDonough DL 6-5 241 RFr. Urbandale, Iowa (Valley)
    93 Aaron Moore DL 6-3 236 Fr. Frisco, Texas (Centennial)
    29 Rashawn Parker DL 5-11 254 Sr. Ponca City, Okla. (Ponca City)
    97 Stephen Ruempolhamer DL 6-3 287 So. Tulsa, Okla. (Union)
    66 Kyle Slifka DL 6-1 259 RJr. Cresco, Iowa (Crestwood)
    95 Walter Woods III DL 5-11 297 Fr. Palmdale, Calif. (Palmdale)



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    Re: Camp Insider: Sifting through the situation at DT

    Quote Originally Posted by dualthreat View Post
    I've always been a fan of coach McKnight, but it doesn't say a whole lot about the off season program when a guy comes in looking better having taken extended time off. You're supposed to be getting better with those workouts-- not beat up and sore-- right? :)
    He left the team after last season and came back before spring. He didn't take the whole summer off. That means the only workouts he missed would've been whatever they do before spring practice. I don't really follow what you're trying to say.



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    Re: Camp Insider: Sifting through the situation at DT

    Hey at least it isn't like last year where they were blowing smoke up our ***** telling us how young and fast we are. That was the truth and I can appreciate that. I can expect the start of the season to be difficult, but hope to see improvement from the younger guys. By no means will this be a position of strength this year, but barring injury or further incident, the group can only improve from here.

    Also, if the offense can take some pressure off the defense, first downs and points on the board, the D will be allowed to help these guys out more. Here is hoping Mangino can do that.


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    Re: Camp Insider: Sifting through the situation at DT

    Sheesh, by the end of it I expected him to run down Cole Netten's strengths and weaknesses at D-Line...just in case....



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    Re: Camp Insider: Sifting through the situation at DT

    At least they have size. Now I hope their strength matches their size.


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    Re: Camp Insider: Sifting through the situation at DT

    Man, that article was like a bucket of ice cold water. Hopefully they grow up quick!



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    Re: Camp Insider: Sifting through the situation at DT

    Just need to be solid that's it. Please be at least solid.



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    Re: Camp Insider: Sifting through the situation at DT

    Quote Originally Posted by boone7247 View Post
    Hey at least it isn't like last year where they were blowing smoke up our ***** telling us how young and fast we are. That was the truth and I can appreciate that. I can expect the start of the season to be difficult, but hope to see improvement from the younger guys. By no means will this be a position of strength this year, but barring injury or further incident, the group can only improve from here.

    Also, if the offense can take some pressure off the defense, first downs and points on the board, the D will be allowed to help these guys out more. Here is hoping Mangino can do that.
    Is it really the coaches fault if everyone chose to ignore what the "young" part of that comment meant?

    I don't get the extremity of some of the reactions. Mac never had more than three defensive tackles, total, in his rotation, and early on he was throwing offensive linemen out there (Tim TeBrink, IIRC), just so that he'd have warm bodies to line up. This is riches, in comparison--they just aren't experienced. Yet. And guess how that happens?




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    Re: Camp Insider: Sifting through the situation at DT

    It's really a tough situation because this wasn't a strong, deep position before all the dismissals. The attrition at the interior DL spot has been horrendous and it's time to pay for it. Ayeni's injury is just terrible luck, but it's the way it goes for us. I really hope these young guys can find a way to just hold their own and make it through. Thank goodness Jensen decided to come back, because without him, this unit would be a complete disaster for a BCS unit. If they can just be "solid" (as was said above) and not hurt the team, that would be great at this point. Unfortunately, I feel the same way about the secondary and the linebackers as well. No heroes - just do your job. Blue-collar and lunch pail things and fight your way through.



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    Re: Camp Insider: Sifting through the situation at DT

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormin View Post
    These were the Defensive Linemen from 2009. How many strike fear into you? Note the names and grades they were in.
    96 Austin Alburtis DL 6-1 266 RJr. Dallas, Texas (Tyler Street Christian Academy)
    98 Jerrod Black DL 6-0 287 RSo. Houston, Texas (Cypress Falls)
    62 Nate Frere DL 6-1 291 Sr. Muscatine, Iowa (Muscatine)
    92 Duane Hatfield DL 6-1 236 Fr. Johnston, Iowa (Johnston)
    99 Chase Hurtig DL 6-2 258 Sr. Hull, Iowa (Rock Valley-Boyden)
    53 Joe Jacobs DL 5-11 245 RFr. Agency, Iowa (Cardinal)
    85 Bailey Johnson DL 6-2 267 Jr. Homewood, Ill. (Homewood-Flossmoor)
    38 Roosevelt Maggitt DL 6-2 239 RFr. Riviera, Fla. (Dwyer)
    94 Jake McDonough DL 6-5 241 RFr. Urbandale, Iowa (Valley)
    93 Aaron Moore DL 6-3 236 Fr. Frisco, Texas (Centennial)
    29 Rashawn Parker DL 5-11 254 Sr. Ponca City, Okla. (Ponca City)
    97 Stephen Ruempolhamer DL 6-3 287 So. Tulsa, Okla. (Union)
    66 Kyle Slifka DL 6-1 259 RJr. Cresco, Iowa (Crestwood)
    95 Walter Woods III DL 5-11 297 Fr. Palmdale, Calif. (Palmdale)
    I'm not saying the DL is going to be great but compared to that list, we do look stacked. A lot of fans really have short memories around here. It's almost like last season was Rhoads' first and only. The only player missing from that list is Chris Lyle, who had a really good season, but we were a lot smaller and less experienced back then too.



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    Re: Camp Insider: Sifting through the situation at DT

    Compared to that list I would take the Jensen/Cousins combo over the Frere/B Johnson/Alburtis combo that started. I think Garcia is further along than what Rump was at that stage. Aka and Trent compare well to anyone else on that list.



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    Re: Camp Insider: Sifting through the situation at DT

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormin View Post
    Compared to what we had in 2009 that is a gold mine of talent and numbers.
    Funny you say that. Another reporter and I had that exact same conversation earlier today.



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    Re: Camp Insider: Sifting through the situation at DT

    Yes, there's been some bad luck, and stupidity from low character guys. BUT, I would expect that some of this talent is going to start surprising us in a positive way. This is year six. I want to see evidence that this staff knows how to identify diamonds in the rough. I also want to see evidence that they can coach them up. Hope springs eternal.



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    Re: Camp Insider: Sifting through the situation at DT

    I hear everyone saying "solid". ****, I'll settle for "adequate".



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