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    A midsummer debate: Returners vs Newcomers, who wins?

    Since it is the dog days of summer for sports fans and there isn't much else to discuss right now, why not discuss who would win in a game between the top five returning players from last year, and the five incoming players that are already on campus.

    Setup: 30 min game, 5 man rosters (No Subs), CFH is coaching both teams.

    Rosters:

    Returners
    Morris
    Long
    Thomas
    Hogue
    Niang

    Newcomers
    Custer
    Cooke
    BDJ
    Nader
    McKay


    I think its a pretty close game to be honest. Obviously there are a lot more question marks for the newcomers than for the returning players, but I think they are able to pull it out by a nose due in large part to the mismatch with either Long or Thomas left to guard BDJ.



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    Re: A midsummer debate: Returners vs Newcomers, who wins?

    Returners...easily.



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    Re: A midsummer debate: Returners vs Newcomers, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    Returners...easily.
    Easily? Not so fast my friend.



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    Re: A midsummer debate: Returners vs Newcomers, who wins?

    I think the newcomers have more firepower all-around, but is it enough to beat a Georges-led team? It would be close.



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    Re: A midsummer debate: Returners vs Newcomers, who wins?

    That would be a great game. It could come down to a Naz Long clutch 3 pointer to win the game. The newcomers almost have more talent across the board.


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    Re: A midsummer debate: Returners vs Newcomers, who wins?

    Given that we just had an article talking about how much Hoiberg focuses on chemistry in his coaching, I think the answer is obviously the returners for the simple fact that they've played more together.



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    Re: A midsummer debate: Returners vs Newcomers, who wins?

    Hoiberg wins


    Hoiberg: I have a unique situation here. I grew up here. I went to college here. My family is close and my wife's family is close. I know everyone in the community and my family is very comfortable here. My daughter has dreamed about one thing and that's going to Iowa State. The NBA is great and I love the NBA, but I love Iowa State and the opportunity I have here. We've really built something special and I think we've got real momentum to keep it going even more.

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    Re: A midsummer debate: Returners vs Newcomers, who wins?

    I would imagine this game has already been played alot at Soukup.

    For my money, give me the new guys.



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    Re: A midsummer debate: Returners vs Newcomers, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by CornFedIABoy View Post
    Given that we just had an article talking about how much Hoiberg focuses on chemistry in his coaching, I think the answer is obviously the returners for the simple fact that they've played more together.

    True. Due to the fact they played together they would be better able to play off of eachother. I guess I was thinking more along the lines of if they met each other midseason with CFH coaching both teams the whole way. The newcomers would probably be able to gel and develop suitabe chemistry simply because every Hoiberg team so far has done just that.



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    Re: A midsummer debate: Returners vs Newcomers, who wins?

    Quote Originally Posted by coolerifyoudid View Post
    Hoiberg wins
    This right here. The '14-'15 season is going to be a fun one to watch, that's for sure.



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    Re: A midsummer debate: Returners vs Newcomers, who wins?

    I'd say returners mainly because of Morris and niang



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    Re: A midsummer debate: Returners vs Newcomers, who wins?

    With that said, man were stacked!



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    Re: A midsummer debate: Returners vs Newcomers, who wins?

    Kourtlin may be the swing man.


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    Re: A midsummer debate: Returners vs Newcomers, who wins?

    That'd be a heck of a game. Newcomers probably have more talent, but I think the returners pull it off simply due to experience from playing together last year.

    This could be a really fun thread to revisit 6 months from now.



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    Re: A midsummer debate: Returners vs Newcomers, who wins?

    I think this is a fairly easy returns win. Don't see how the newcomers have any chemistry to be able to compete. Also Morris and Long would eat Custer and Cooke's lunch. Nothing against Custer and Cooke, think they both will be good players for ISU, but the experience those two have would just be overwhelming.


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